• John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Don’t give them a phone until they are prepared to see everything the Internet has. Kids can be smart and will find ways around the blocks you put in place.

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        3 months ago

        Smartphones cost enough that a parent can control the finances and I don’t believe kids can aquire a large enough fund by themselve without at least some assistance by the parents.
        And if, usually as a gift and that is probably taken in by a parent anyway

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            3 months ago

            And buying that requires knowledge of amazon, knowledge of what phone is useful, knowledge to avoid a scam or faulty product, an email address, a credit card, and a device to order from.

            Children are surprisingly clever and have all the time in the world, but they aren’t professional pen-testers and don’t have the experience needed to use online services before having access to them.

            It’s far more likely they get a hand-me-down device from a friend and keep it at school, especially if they know such a thing would be confiscated immediately upon discovery. Preventing this interaction would require control over the child’s life nearing Amish levels, or prison levels.

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              3 months ago

              They sell these at Walmart, too. It really only requires a chance sighting of it and a couple weeks allowance for a young teen or kid to end up with one of these cheap smartphones.

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                3 months ago

                See that’s more realistic. Sneaking off to walmart is still a bit of a stretch in sprawl-hell, but I can see how a cheap locally available phone might make it’s way into anyone’s hands, especially as a hand-me-down.

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            3 months ago

            On Amazon you either need to buy gift cards or have a working bank account/credit card.
            If your kid works around those road blocks you have more serious problems…
            And btw: Are they really usable?

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              3 months ago

              They sell these same cheap phones at the store, and yeah, they work fine. I assume you live way out in the suburbs somewhere where it is unheard of that a young teen might end up at a store with dozens of dollars in their pocket, but I’m being realistic. You have to be vigilant about what your kids are up to.

              In many ways, I am more comfortable with my kid going to the store on their own than I am of them using TikTok, given what I know about TikTok.

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        3 months ago

        Phone maybe, but not a SIM card with data. Although you can do a lot without a SIM card if your school has public WiFi I guess

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      3 months ago

      The thing I tell people is that as a parent, you are going to put maybe a few hours into blocking them from getting to stuff. They are then going to spend as much time as they want trying to get through it. You can dig through concrete with a spoon if you’re patient enough.

      Educate them, and give them access when they’re responsible enough