• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    89
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    Did the dad never change any diapers?

    Micropenis is almost always evident from birth. Always afaik, but I’m leaving room for edge cases I’ve never heard of.

    So you’d have to be a pretty hands off dad not to see it, even if it somehow wasn’t noticed or reported to the parents by the doctors involved.

    Edit: also, obviously fake and gay, forgot where I was for a second and was pretending it was real for discussion/entertainment sake.

    • Default_Defect@midwest.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      63
      ·
      3 months ago

      I can’t imagine most first time parents innately know what a baby’s penis is supposed to look like, is it really that obvious?

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Yeah, it’s pretty obvious.

        It tends to happen the most with other atypicalities, but even when it doesn’t, it just doesn’t look right. Humans have certain proportions, ratios, and we can usually tell when someone is off by a fairly small margin. Genitals are no different in that regard.

        You might not immediately think “micropenis”, but you’d be able to tell things weren’t normative.

        Now, it might be pretty easy to shove that aside and assume it would grow later on, and they do. They just don’t grow to normative proportions, they stay micro, just not the same size as they start.

        • somethingsnappy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          3 months ago

          Just another anecdote, but I have 2 boys. I can’t tell if one has a micropenis and the other has a macropenis. One looks smaller than proportional, but not “micro?” One looks, well, otherwise. They are both huge kids otherwise… Maybe they are both near other sides of average, but I’m not spending time trying to figure that out.

          • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            Well, if they’re much past infancy, there’s only so much that could be done until they’re adults anyway. Afaik, the kind of hormonal treatments to cause growth work way less past the early years. After that, it tends to need surgical intervention to change, but that’s just based on the last time I was reading up on it, which has been about a year at this point.

            That being said, it’s worth talking to their doctor because the underlying causes can cause other problems that would be better detected early.

            It’s a really simple thing to have checked, it’s just measuring the penis and comparing that to charts. No trauma involved, no complicated procedure, and unless it does point to a formal diagnosis there’s no further action needed.

            It’s one of those things where knowing can give everyone involved time to prepare for anything down the road.

    • IMongoose@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      3 months ago

      I don’t think it was that uncommon for a boomer dad to never change a diaper. One of my friends dad was bragging about it and my own dad was a little surprised to see me change one. Luxury of a single income supporting a middle class family of 4 I guess.

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        Well, considering the is dated last year, I didn’t consider that anon would be old enough to have boomer parents and be coming out late in life, but that is possible. I sometimes forget that my generation hasn’t all come out yet. I’m just so used to the only people coming put in my life being under 30, that it’s become three unconscious association that someone coming out has to be younger.

        You’d think I’d know better, what with seeing the occasional article about someone from my mom’s age range deciding it’s time to transition, and she was at the tail end of the baby boom.

    • naeap@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’m 40 and would have no idea how big penis of a toddler should be - and with all growth hormone stuff happening, I wouldn’t feel comfortable at judging at this age (besides that it is mostly irrelevant in long term relationships)

      Also, my personal penis, so to speak, can be very minor, but as a grower I needed to step up my confidence, when being naked - but of curse instead of an actual micro penis, mine seems to be just shy and needs some encouraging words or kisses.
      So maybe I can’t relate.

      Still I think this idea is idiotic

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Micropenis is typically noticed in the initial physical exam after birth. The upper limit for that criteria is about half of the typical/normative, so it’s visually distinct even at birth. It’s not determined by erect length at all.

        Penises do grow over time, no matter what size they start, but there’s limits to how much. Even as puberty hits, someone with a micropenis will only get so much extra because of the underlying limitations of the tissues. If someone of normative length gets a 10% change (as an example, I don’t recall the actual number ranges for pubertal changes), that same basic range is all the person with a micropenis is going to get too.

        And you’re exactly right, it has next to zero impact on long term relationships. I wanna say that out of maybe fifteen or sixteen patients I had that fit the criteria, all but three had kids. So it’s definitely not a barrier to sex at all. The one patient I had that was unusually talkative about it (most of them would just state the fact and describe any special needs they’d have for bathing, then never mention it again) said that once he read “the joy of sex” and learned how to do oral, he and his wife did fine, which she said was true as well, fwiw.

        • Phen@lemmy.eco.br
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          It might just have “turned” micro afterwards, with a combination of a bunch of stuff, like them being a grower, the person putting on weight and also losing libido.

          • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            3 months ago

            Well, no, not really.

            Being a “grower” isn’t the same thing at all.

            Someone putting on weight could be called buried penis. Totally different thing as well.

            Libido loss doesn’t have anything to do with the penis itself, directly. There may be an underlying hormonal issue that causes both, but that’s still different. And, sometimes people with micropenis may have psychological issues with their penis that interferes with libido as well. But, again that’s not the same thing.

            And, no, it doesn’t “turn” micro later. By definition, it’s an inborn thing. It would be called something else if it happens later in life.

            The most recent research into this is barely a year old, but it only backed up and refined previous information; this stuff has been documented and studied since at least the seventies, since that’s when the first surgeries for altering the condition took place. And that’s just as far as I know currently.

            It’s maybe one of those things where there’s a gap between the actual definition of a medical term and the colloquial usage, but I’m going off of the medical version. Again, from that standard, it is inborn, with the key factor in causing it being hormonal abnormalities in utero. The reasons for those hormonal issues are varied, and may have other symptoms after birth, but for it to be micropenis instead of something else, it’s an in utero malformation.

            • Phen@lemmy.eco.br
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              I meant that the person on that image could be describing themselves as having a micro penis because of those things instead of actually having a micro penis. That’s why I placed the word “turn” in quotes.

    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      3 months ago

      A study from the 80s showed that around 45% of fathers NEVER changed a diaper.

      Things changed today but I would not be surprised if the dad never changed a diaper.

      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        39 year old dad here. Being proud of not changing diapers was my dad’s generation for sure. I’ve certainly changed plenty, and I can’t think of any peers who haven’t.

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        Yeah, that’s true. I just don’t think that way. Kinda dumb of me to not consider the possibilities. I mean, it could be a step-dad, and they didn’t become anon’s dad until later. Could have been deployed in the military and didn’t have the chance. Someone else pointed out that the dad could have been older, in the actual baby boomer range; and that reminded me that I had assumed anon was a younger person when that doesn’t have to be the case

        I just default to the idea of fatherhood that I was raised around, and how I wanted to be a dad. Couldn’t get out of my own head before I commented lol. You’d think I’d know better

    • brewdtype@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 months ago

      My stepmom’s dad has bragged about never having changed a single diaper for his kids. He sees this as a victory. What a fucking creep.

  • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    112
    arrow-down
    36
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    A big reason that drove me was that I have a micropenis.

    Fake. There are no “reasons to drive someone” other than their internal gender, this sounds like something a cis person someone who thinks being trans is a choice would say.

    Edit: For clarity, I’m not speculating on whether or not the OP in the post is trans or cis, I’m saying it doesn’t sound like a real story because it sounds inauthentic to the trans experience. A trans person could easily think this up, like anyone can make up a story that is close to their experiences, but since it isn’t real it doesn’t really pass scrutiny.

    • somtwo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Wait, are you saying people would lie on 4chan???

      But seriously, yeah, people don’t seem to realize that people tend to want to pick the path of least resistance. If someone really is trans I have to believe it’s because who they are is so at odds with the expectations of society.

      Edit: added a qualification because I am not trans

      • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Exactly. Coming to terms with being trans, when trans people have been seen as nothing but the butt of far too many jokes in damn near all exposure most of us had growing up, is a difficult process rife with cognitive dissonance and defense mechanisms. No one wants to be trans, they just want to be their gender and have to be trans to get that.

    • Floey@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      26
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      3 months ago

      Your internal gender didn’t just fall out of a coconut tree.

    • Match!!@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      3 months ago

      two of my trans women friends, when getting their sperm frozen before starting hormones, found out they just have XX chromosomes and never had working sperm in the first place

      i think we underestimate how many intersex people there are

      • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Yup. My belief is that we are likely to eventually combine the categories of transgender and differences in sexual development (formerly known as intersex) as we discover more about it’s biological origins. The vast majority of people have never been karyotyped and have no idea what their chromosomes are.

      • Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        It’s time to just replace the old questionnaires with Skyrim type character creator slide rules.

        “Please define yourself. If you take more than an hour you fail no matter what.”

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      3 months ago

      Idk 4chan has a notoriously toxic and strange trans community. Giving “reasons” is exactly the sort of thing I’d expect of them

      • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        That’s a good point. I haven’t browsed 4chan since way before they had any LGBT community/rep visible on it, I don’t know what kind of convoluted views they have. Let me guess, some of them unironcally identify as “agp” don’t they?

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          3 months ago

          There’s a whole lot of blanchardianism (agp vs hsts). Quite a bit of homophobia, it’s actually a lot straighter than you’d probably expect. A lot of how they act is surprisingly old school, like back in the day when you weren’t allowed to transition unless therapists thought you couldn’t live a normal life as your assigned sex old school. And all this with the characteristic 4chan edgy bs. Also they’re anti supportive, like full on terf forum level of critical of trans people’s appearance.

          I haven’t been but I’ve learned to pick up the signs by seeing the shit trans people who come from 4chan say.

            • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              3 months ago

              Yeah I think there’s just something about 4chan that encourages a sort of emotional automasochistic culture. I think it’s partly that the culture pushes away the healthy, but it also drives those capable of health away from it in favor of “uncomfortable truths”. I forget what Natalie Wynn called it, but it’s the philosophy of “it is true because it hurts”. And it happens all across the website. It’s the thing that ties the Nazis, the trolls, the incels, and the self hating trans people together, and it’s antithetical to happiness.

              • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                3 months ago

                Holy shit I never heard of it put into words but jesus fucking christ does that CLICK. I’m no longer there myself but there was certainly a time when I felt in a similar way:

                The truth is painful,
                Therefore the more that it hurts,
                The more true it is.

                This rhetorical position is insidious, deranged, toxic, and most importantly: blatantly incorrect and false. Holding this belief is a diagnostic flag of fundamental cognitive stack malfunction. Suspend all non-critical executive processes and seek therapy.

                • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  So I just remembered the term she used was masochistic epistemology. It was in this video about incels.

                  But yeah it’s such an easy trap to fall into when you’re already unhappy. And yeah it’s a form of accepting defeat because trying is hard and the possibility of failure is scary. Sometimes the truth hurts, and if you’re generally miserable the truth you need is likely uncomfortable, but that discomfort could be anything from “you need to get your shit together” to “your expectations are unrealistic” to “you’re surrounding yourself with people and things that make you miserable because it’s easier to accept unhappiness than to change”

                  Incels for example think they need to accept that they’re just ugly and unable to ever be seen as attractive and thus are destined to be miserable forever, when in reality they often need to accept that getting laid won’t make them happy and their misery is part of why they can’t get laid. They need to find a happy life in which sex would be a nice plus and then be clean, groomed, and enjoyable to be around.

        • 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          i have spent and still spend lots of time in these places and yes, they do. they desperately want to be hsts and hate themselves for being agp and not being trutrans enough. lots of reppers too (trans people that know they’re trans but repress it out of self hatred). there’s lots of lore

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      This very well may be fake, but it’s also entirely possible to identify as trans for any number of reasons. You might say such a person is “not really” trans but, supposing that is true, there’s no contradiction between that and some person who doesn’t have such ideological convictions having a thought process like you see in this image and acting on it.

      That said, I agree that it’s probably fake, though I’m not as confident that the poster is a cis impersonator.

      • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        You might say such a person is “not really” trans

        Excuse you, I would never tell someone they are not really trans. If they say they were made trans by life circumstances, I would tell them that that is likely not true, but I would never dictate someone’s gender.

        • CrookedSerpent [she/her]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          3 months ago

          I’m somebody who absolutely does think I am trans purely by life circumstances, but I also recognize that the vast majority of trans people aren’t. Like I am incredibly glad that I transitioned and am now living life mostly stealth as a woman, years down the line, but I’m almost positive that if I wasn’t put through literal hell as a child (in the very cruel and specific ways that I was) I wouldn’t have even thought to have transitioned as a young adult. Perhaps I am completely incorrect in my assumptions about myself, and I would have turned out this way no matter what, but I find it hard to believe that if I wasn’t relentlessly bullied, harassed, beaten, and rejected by my peers as a child, that I would be sitting here now as a woman. I feel like I literally became a woman by sheer force of will in order to save my life, because I literally could not continue as the broken husk of a “man” I was at 21, and by some miracle it worked. But maybe I’m just delusional, idk

          • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            What do you think happened that made your internal gender change? To me, and to most trans people in my experience, it was a discovery of an already present internal gender and not a change.

            It is also true that people who are more introspective, such as people who experienced trauma, are more likely to come out as trans - perhaps this is true for you.

            • CrookedSerpent [she/her]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              3 months ago

              I guess I am rather unique in my experience of transness in that I started living full time (and even passing) as a woman before I even self identified as one. The thing is, lifing as a women for aabout a year literally changed my internal sence of gender, I wanted it to happen and I made it happen. Maybe that’s just me rationalizing my inherent “transness” but that’s my recollection of events.

              • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                3 months ago

                I’m sorry if I misunderstand, are you saying you were forced to present as a woman? If so, I’m sorry that happened to you but it does sound like it worked out for you.

                If that wasn’t the case, to me it sounds like you were unconsciously aware of your gender but had conscious defense mechanisms that took time to work down.

                My experience isn’t all that dissimilar, in that I admitted to myself and my therapist that I was “not cisgender”, knowing perfectly well that that would definitionally mean I am transgender, but also denied that I was transgender. This was repression, “still cis though” to a higher level. It sounds like your experience was similar.

                • CrookedSerpent [she/her]@hexbear.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Forced? Only by myself, as I thought it was the only way to keep living, though maybe that’s just proof that I am trans, and I simply constructed a bunch of mental hoops to jump through due to internalized transphobia?

        • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          If they say they were made trans by life circumstances, I would tell them that that is likely not true, but I would never dictate someone’s gender.

          I think it’s worthwhile remaining open to this but not really valuable to trans people to like make it part of activism or anything. There are enough instances of people saying things like their sexuality has completely shifted for me to be open to the idea that what gender we’re attracted to can change. I don’t think we know enough about being trans to be certain one way or another, trans people however have a very understandable defensive reaction to this because we don’t want it to be weaponised against us as “fake” or whatever.

          • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            My basic point is this: If it’s inflictable, it’s curable.

            I for one knew my gender from about as young as I could talk (Edit: I repressed this for many years due to massive social pressures). I remember my assigned gender being inflicted upon me at a young age, when I did not immediately conform. If you asked me pre-transition but after I realized I was trans whether or not I would press a button and become cis in my assigned gender, I would say that that feels like losing a significant part of myself. If you were to ask me, if I could have pressed a button and become a cis in my actual, realized gender, I would have said yes and that it wouldn’t have been a major loss of self at all. This is true pretty much my whole life. But I lacked the self awareness to realize this about my self, and that has changed, not my actual gender. We are quite literally gaslit our entire lives in regards to our assigned gender. Usually, before one comes out, one tries to embrace their assigned gender only to find that they do not feel comfortable (i.e. dysphoria).

            I don’t reject people having fluidity in their gender or sexuality. The way I view it, there is a multidimensional spectrum and people tend to inhabit different areas of it. If they did actually change sexuality or gender, and not just discover it, due to fluidity, then they might inhabit an area that includes something close to or exactly their assigned gender as well as their realized gender.

            The leading theory for what makes people trans, and gay for that matter, is hormonal fluctuations during critical moments in fetal development. In other words, we are born this way.

            • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              “Cure” is loaded language. Your gender doesn’t need curing, your gender is what it is.

              If it can be changed, then yes perhaps it can be intentionally changed. But what the mechanisms are for that to occur are absolutely not understood and any attempt to forcibly do so to anyone should be considered a violation of human rights.

              I don’t disagree with the reasoning everyone has for being extremely defensive about this possibility, I just also don’t really rule it out as solidly as many others do. I get it though. I do understand why people have such a reaction to this and want it to be untrue. I feel like we don’t really understand any of it though. We’ve barely scratched the surface.

              I also think a lot of the research is trying to confirm the idea that people are born this way. IE working from the conclusion. Because the science is performed by those with a desire for it to be the outcome because it’s the safest outcome for trans people. I’m not really convinced all of it is good.

              I don’t know. I’ve just seen a lot of change in myself in my life and am open to the idea that we’re not as fixed as we believe. And of course that that’s OKAY and doesn’t change anything about how people should be treated or viewed.

              • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                3 months ago

                Yes, my point in saying “cured” is that it is a loaded statement but is logically consistent with the idea being trans is inflicted upon you by something external, and that would lead to conversion therapy which has been shown to not work.

                There does need to be more research. The current research supports what I’ve said, and future research could change that. However, at the very least some people are born trans, even if others somehow become trans in some critical early developmental milestone.

                As for the idea that the research is seeking evidence of transness being inherit at birth: that is not the case, there have been many attempts to study so called “sudden onset gender dysphoria” or the idea that someone could suddenly become trans, and those studies can’t find any evidence for that (other than one that asked TERF parents if it seemed sudden to them, who of course said yes). Other studies have shown that people tend to have a concept of their internal gender from about as soon as they can talk, which is the earliest we could possibly test, indicating that if it is not prenatal then very early in life.

                • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  I think this lacks an open mind. This reaction isn’t that surprising though, I do get why you and other people are very invested in this. I think you’re too wedded to gender overall though, I find the camp of trans people writing about the idea that eventually society will enter a post-gender phase to be the most compelling theory. If gender can be abolished then it can also change.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          We’re talking about an imagined person whose internality we have access to. If you acknowledge that, within the assumptions of your own ideology, there could be people that are “likely not trans”, that means essentially that there is an array of different possible stipulated people and some of them are trans, but most of them aren’t. Another way to put it is that, if you said you were “80% sure” that someone wasn’t trans that means, depending on certain unknown variables that actually determine the truth of that guess, there are 20 possible worlds where they are trans and 80 where they aren’t.

          All this to say, based on what you expressed ideologically originally and even in your refutation, it is consistent to stipulate a self-identified trans person who you identify as not trans, even if you would never tell a person that in real life (out of respect, because it involves information you can’t access, etc.). Does that make sense? I feel like I got a little bogged down in adjectives, but I felt obliged to explain myself further given the “Excuse you”.

          • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            The judgement of whether or not someone is trans is if they say they are. I frankly don’t understand what I said that makes you think I think it is acceptable for anyone to dictate someone’s gender or whether or not they are really trans, but I absolutely don’t believe that. I edited my original comment with a clarification.

            The story sounds inauthentic to the trans experience and I think they made it up. I don’t think the OP isn’t trans, I think their made up story doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

            The leading theory for what causes people to be trans (or gay for that matter) is hormonal fluctuations at critical points of fetal development. So we are born this way. People can be gender fluid as well, and they may have a different relationship with their gender(s) than I since I am not.

            • Hexboare [they/them]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              The leading theory for what causes people to be trans (or gay for that matter) is hormonal fluctuations at critical points of fetal development. So we are born this way.

              The evidence for this is really poor, the entire field of the hormonal theory of sexuality (and gender) is garbage

              There’s lots of good literature on transmedicalism

              Anyway someone who subscribed to that theory would say that a micropenis would be consistent with low fetal testerone and this story would be readily believable by them - far more than a trans woman who was born with a macropenis.

              • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                3 months ago

                No someone wouldn’t, because a core tenet of that theory is the critical points part, there is a separate point that influenced genital development and a separate point that influenced mental gender development.

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              I see. I neglected an interpretation and it was important. So if someone says, for example and not necessarily making assertions about the OOP, that “I’m trans because I was born with a micropenis and that fuckin’ sucks,” your internal response would be “This person is trans, but doesn’t understand why they are trans.” [Or that it is likely that they don’t understand, and see what I said before about this implying it is true of some hypothetical people]

              Is that a more fair representation of your view?

              (I put this under the wrong comment at first somehow, but also I was partly using information from that one)

              • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                3 months ago

                Yes, exactly.

                The word “likely” is just me acknowledging the potential for this view of trans people as being born trans, which is based on research, could change as more research is done.

    • DempstersBox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 months ago

      Yeah, this seems like the ‘joke’ is that only guys with tiny dicks would want to transition.

      Which has nothing to do with it

  • Mac@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    53
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    3 months ago

    Bummer. If only there was more to relationships than penetrative sex. :/

    • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      3 months ago

      I saw a penis size chart recently, it showed the overall avg size versus porn actor sizes.

      Overall people’s average size was around 5.5" and average porn actor size was about 7" and there were very few porn actors with less than 6"

      So porn is generally skewing people’s perception of size if that’s what they see more than in-person dongs. (haha in person)

      • tetris11@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        3 months ago

        The median would be interesting. Just in case there’s one guy out there stocking a 12 footer.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 months ago

      I would have to actually look for that.

      So it’s kinda hard to notice what you aren’t looking for.

      But you do you, no kink shaming.

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    3 months ago

    Sis was basically built with a clit to begin with, will barely need any aftermarket mods to match female spec.