The Republican presidential candidate ridiculously claimed that Biden is "trying to hold" Bibi back, as the Israeli prime minister continued to ruthlessly bomb Lebanon and Gaza.

“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

  • ceenote@lemmy.world
    331·
    2 months ago

    Honestly, is there anyone alive today with more blood on their hands than Benjamin Netanyahu?

    • Stovetop@lemmy.world
      371·
      2 months ago

      It’s sad to say, but yes. Gaza is a horrific tragedy, but it is an admittedly small corner of the world.

      The Palestinian health ministry has reported 40,000+ Palestinian dead. Meanwhile, George W. Bush is responsible for the deaths of over a million Iraqis following his completely unnecessary invasion of Iraq. He’s still kicking, probably using some of that blood on his hands for the painting he does now.

      Putin is also pulling comparable numbers as Bibi in Ukraine, though that conflict has been going on for a little bit longer than the one in Gaza. But that’s also not counting how many of his own men he sent to their deaths, which is estimated to be over 100,000.

      Henry Kissinger would also be on this list but thankfully it’s been almost a year since his long-awaited demise.

      And that’s really only looking at conflict. Not factoring in others who are responsible for large-scale humanitarian crises that may end up killing many more people just from disease or starvation.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        163·
        2 months ago

        The Palestinian health ministry has reported 40,000+ Palestinian dead.

        That only counts people who get found, obviously it doesn’t count the tens of thousands who are dead or dying under the rubbel. The real number is probably an order of magnitude higher.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
        121·
        2 months ago

        Not to detract from your point, but the real number of deaths in Gaza is estimated to be between 100-200 thousand.

        • Stovetop@lemmy.world
          6·
          2 months ago

          Fair, and that’s also where things get muddy when trying to factor in the humanitarian crisis aspect into it all. Number of dead due to starvation, lack of medical care, preventable disease, and so on is impossibly hard to get an accurate number of.

          I just feel like this is a story we’re going to keep hearing over and over, forever. Darfur yesterday, Gaza today, who is tomorrow?

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      174·
      2 months ago

      Trump’s response to covid. Putin’s entire career. Kim Jong Un’s slow starvation of his entire fucking nation. But Netanyahu is up there and we should stop letting him write our foreign policy.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          73·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, him too. But I’m not gonna minimize the perpetrator of an ongoing genocide either. Netanyahu is a piece of shit and we shouldn’t be supporting his genocide. No matter how much centrists want to. We should cease selling him weapons right now. Centrists might not get everything they want for the first time ever, but they can vote blue no matter who.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
      5·
      2 months ago

      Bush is up there but if Netanyahu hasn’t already passed him, he definitely will as the genocide continues.

    • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
      41·
      2 months ago

      Assad is right up there. 500k-600k in the last 10 years in Syria.

      That’s about the same yearly average as Israel in Gaza (so far) but for 10+ years ongoing.

      But I expect the humanitarian crisis to result in the death rate in Gaza to increase unless the US grows a pair.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        11·
        2 months ago

        The death rate has already gone way down as Israel shifted from assault to low intensity warfare in Gaza. Look at these numbers from the UN in June: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-19-june-2024

        Notice the curve flattening? According to Al Jazeera the death toll is at 42,500 now. So 5 months to get to 30K (assault phase). Then 7 months to get from 30K to ~43K (low intensity phase). So it’s a rate of less than 2K per month now. At the present rate, the Israel-Hamas war would have to go on for over 23 years to get to the level of casualties from the Syrian civil war.

        Yahya Sinwar was just killed because he had to go above ground with only two guards. Do you really think Hamas is going to hold out for 23 years? Come on, you’re smarter than this.

        Sorry but the numbers just don’t fit the genocide narrative that people here can’t let go of. If you’re starting from genocide being the absolute truth, then you’re incentivized to ignore a lot of facts and start saying things that don’t make a lot of sense to conform to a narrative.