• mox@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    According to the translation I read, the security-related complaint in CSAC’s post is mainly about Intel Management Engine. And you know what? They’re right. It is a back door, and it is a security risk. Not a new or obscure one, though, and not just for China.

    The risks imposed by Intel Management Engine and AMD’s Platform Security Processor have been known for several CPU generations. Obviously, a lot of us are unhappy about this and would like a way to disable them.

    https://support.system76.com/articles/intel-me/

    https://hackaday.com/2020/06/16/disable-intels-backdoor-on-modern-hardware/

    Instead, these components have been made more and more integrated with core system functionality, making the prospect of disabling them less and less practical. I fear it may take legislation to give us back control of the computers we supposedly own.

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      1 month ago

      it may take legislation to give us back control of the computers we supposedly own

      The government is the reason why you have backdoors built into your computers and routers.

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        1 month ago

        Government comprises many departments and organizations, which do many things. It’s not a single blob of all good or all bad.

        Also, not all back doors and CPU bugs are government-imposed.

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          Government comprises many departments and organizations, which do many things. It’s not a single blob of all good or all bad.

          I don’t remember saying the contrary. When one part of the government does something, it was still the government.

          not all back doors and CPU bugs are government-imposed

          Don’t remember saying every single backdoor is government-imposed. Fact is there’s at least one backdoor that is for the government, whether there’s 1 or 5 doesn’t really matter.

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          I can only speak for myself, but abandoning x86 isn’t something that I could have done if I hadn’t first cleaned my hands of my old gaming habit.

          On the technical end, if you’re already using some Linux distro, you’re already half way there. Just use the installation media for ppce64el or riscv64 instead of the usual amd64.

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              Those suffixes in the installation images denote for which CPU architecture the image’s binaries had been compiled for. In short, yes, they will only install and run on their respective hardware.

              Unless you just want to fire them up in a virtual machine simulating the relevant CPU architecture.

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      2 months ago

      People online were making fun at my old PC still running an FX 8350. That one was released before all this. Who’s laughing now? I’m only partially kidding lol.

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        1 month ago

        I’m online, and I commend you for continuing to use your hardware for as long as it does the job, instead of adding to the world’s energy, material, and e-waste problems. Well done.

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          He is adding to the world’s energy given that an FX 8350 is slower than something like a Ryzen 5600 at twice the TDP.

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            Your hypothetical energy savings from new hardware is nothing but a wild guess since you don’t know his actual usage, and meaningless anyway unless you subtract from it the energy use from manufacturing and distributing a new system, as well as that from disposing of the old one.

            Also, you haven’t addressed the other problems mentioned at all.

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              you don’t know his actual usage

              Why would I need to know his usage? Whatever it might be, a newer CPU can do the same amount of work as an old CPU for a fraction of the energy.

              meaningless anyway unless you subtract from it the energy use from manufacturing and distributing a new system, as well as that from disposing of the old one.

              You mean the CPU that was already manufactured years ago and won’t magically disappear due to you refusing to upgrade to it? Whether you use it or not the energy to create it was already spent.

              you haven’t addressed the other problems mentioned at all

              And I didn’t mean to. I simply corrected you when you congratulated him for using less energy, which is not true.

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    1 month ago

    Good, I was starting to think it was only China spying on everyone :D