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      It’s all they know. Their dad voted Republican, and his dad voted Republican, so I guess that means they don’t get a choice somehow.

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      Because they have different priorities.

      Maybe they are big gun aficionados and don’t like the idea of gun control. Maybe they don’t like immigration. Or they’re rich and don’t like taxes. Or any number of other issues. But it all comes down to the idea that something else is more important to them than the rights of trans people.

      I think it’s shameful that anything takes priority over human rights. That being said, it’s very human to ignore the happiness of people that aren’t directly involved in their lives.

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      because by saying “sad and shameful” they are not saying they oppose the gop rhetoric, they simply dont like the tone. 60% of gop still choose to vote for anti-trans candidate in the same survey.

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      A lot of them are living in parts of the country that are more rural. That means most of their friends and family, their community, is Republican. Losing that network of support would create trauma. It doesn’t make it ok for them to vote against the common good, but it allows for understanding the psychological challenge of switching parties.

      Plus they probably hate Muslims and see nothing wrong with that.

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      It’s like the dipshits saying “they didn’t like the tweeting”, but still support donnie anyway. They don’t see - or care - about how their own party is putting others in harm’s way. Some of the marks in the party seem to bleat platitudes about how they think normal Americans don’t like donnie because of “mean tweets”.

      It’s way beyond “mean tweets” and donnie being inartful. These assholes in the GOP mean this stuff. Project 2025 is not some fluke or side project or fringe. Project 2025 IS the GOP and it IS the conservative movement. It’s all the same shit. People keep trying to make some kind of hairsplitting arguments between GOP, the cons, donnie, Q, and Project 2025…it’s all the same exact swamp.

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      Because people are rarely single issue voters. There are a few here and there, but given the dominance of the US’s two-party system, you often have to make a choice. If I imagine 2 candidates: one who is strongly pro-choice but overtly anti-gay, and another who is strongly pro-life but also pro-LGBTQ issues, that would actually be a pretty tough decision for me.

      As much as I want to hate Trump supporters, I can still sympathize with them. A lot are lifelong Republicans who are choosing between someone who will probably try to enact 90% of their personal beliefs but is an authoritarian crazy person, and someone who seems sane but disagrees with them on 90% of issues and will do everything to stymie the things they believe to be right. It’s not a simple choice.

      I’m ignoring third-parties here as a caveat, so apologies if that’s the crux of your question. But my opinion is that you should push for and vote for a new system while accepting that the rules are what they are now, and you have to strategize with the current situation.

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      They probably have other reasons they vote republican. If they could cherry pick each issue, those 41% would obviously vote accordingly but the reality is it’s just one big game of red vs blue so it’s yet another complex topic reduced to a binary

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    Even though these people will still vote for an anti-trans Republican candidate, the poll is a little encouraging. Republican politicians are not principled, and if persecuting trans people doesn’t win them applause from their voters perhaps they’ll quieten down a bit from inciting this particular hatred.

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      this particular hatred

      History has repeatedly shown us they’ll just move on to a new target for their bigotry because that’s the only way they can come close to getting a majority of voters to back their economic plans that only serve a wealthy few. Like, trans people right now are just what gay people were for their party 10-20 years ago.

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        I try to console myself by realizing they’ll lose that fight too. And the next. And the next. The road will be bumpy and full of struggles, and people will suffer while we walk it, but in the people eternally looking backwards can not win. They fight for the past, but we are the future.

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      The problem is that if it appeals to a small number of people, and isn’t a dealbreaker for everyone else then it’s worth doing. In order for anything to actually change there have to be more people willing to walk away over the culture war bullshit than there are people who vote for them because of it. Otherwise it’s still a win for them.

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      59% don’t find it “shameful” and it’s not like those 41% are going to vote for someone else…

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    “Listen, bigotry is sad and shameful. I don’t agree trans people should be made illegal. But taxes and immigrants…”

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    20% of any poll will agree with basically anything. So I pretty much always lop off that portion in my head by default now. So until that number reaches 60%, it doesn’t really mean much.

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    I know a Republican “ally”, they claim to support trans people but completely bought into the idea that Republicans will “only” oppress Trans kids.

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    Asked if they viewed Republican candidates’ use of anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric in their campaigns as “sad and shameful,” 41% of Republicans and 58% of independent voters agreed. That compares to 38% of Republicans and 25% of independents who do not think it’s “shameful.”

    What happened to sad? What did you do with sad???