• Tyfud@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I get that tswift is a billionaire, but she doesn’t belong in this meme.

    Quit trying to equate her to the oligarchs. She hasn’t demonstrated any of those tendencies.

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        1 month ago

        I agree with this take and upvoted you. But she is a billionaire, and also a genuinely good person who’s supported her fans, the people that work with her, etc. I don’t think there should be any billionaires, and I suspect TSwift would likely agree with that.

        That’s the difference between her and the actual oligarchs pictured. They’re scum of the earth. She’s guilty of wage exploitation, but capitalism is designed around that idea, so she’s just playing the game.

        She’s not off the deep end like so many other billionaires.

        There’s shades of gray here. We can agree there shouldn’t be billionaires on principle, and also agree that not all billionaires are using their ill-gotten wealth for pure evil, like the other 3 pictured in the “meme”.

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          Yeah, I also agree she doesn’t really deserve to be in this meme. She’s not as bad as the others on here. However, I suspect the original creator put her on the meme so this discussion could be had, which is honestly very smart.

          At the end of the day, I think it should be criminal to hoard the amount of wealth that constitutes being a billionaire. I would “take action” against any and all billionaires given the circumstances, even Taylor Swift. Eat the rich. Distribute the wealth.

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          The point isn’t to subject them to gradation, it’s to note the damages they all do in their different ways.

          Taylor isn’t exempt from being held responsible for her part just because she’s a nice person.

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            I mean what is she supposed to do, take a riverboat to her next tour? She’s a direct result of a larger cultural fascination, not the problem itself.

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              I’m with you, she can’t possibly take any form of public transport. Not because she’s somehow better than the rest of us, but for security if nothing else.

              And honestly, I can’t imagine how much she would disrupt a public airport or train station. No way I would want to be in that place at the same time, it would be chaos.

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                Doesn’t it though, imagine her trying to go through the airport. If people would leave her alone it would work out, but cultural fascination implies people will be fascinated. And therefore she, and every other person at the airport will end up delayed over and over and over.

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                  I think the point being missed is that she takes unnecessary flights and uses too much fuel in doing so.

                  Look it up. She’s been scrutinized for it pretty publicly. And there are viable alternatives- she just seems to prefer not to use them.

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              There’s plenty she could do and tons of other acts throughout history that managed to do what she does with a smaller carbon footprint.

              “She has no choice!” is not an argument to defend what she does.

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                  Asking someone to reduce their carbon footprint isn’t asking for perfection. It’s simply asking them to participate.

                  And a blatant refusal to do so is what earned her her spot on this list.

                  I’m sure she’s a nice person- but being nice doesn’t excuse one from the responsibility of their actions.

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                Not defending her, but it’s sorta ambiguous. It sounds like this may have been prep for selling the aircraft.

                Per the article you linked:

                “The last few flights on this account are right around the time that N898TS was sold,” he wrote. “Registration for the aircraft transferred 2/4/2024. These short flights are likely maintenance or demo flights.”