Poor one out for all your LGBTQ+ homies in America, they’re about to be hunted for sport.

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    Why do you think the turnout was so low? Millions of idiots were pressuring people to withhold their vote over Palestine in a colossal self-fuck. That is if you assume these people spreading that are really that stupid. Some were, but I think a large percentage were paid trolls. And their campaigning worked. Russia owns the United States now

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      It can’t possibly be because that’s a real concern. They had to be paid actors. You sound like Infowars after a school shooting.

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              You still don’t get it do you? Blaming the people you need to persuade is not a winning strategy. They aren’t going to magically like you suddenly.

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                Holding people accountable for their actions that affect you is an entirely just and necessary thing to do.

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                  I hold the Democratic party entirely responsible for trying to win by stealing Trump’s base instead of working with the left. The voters cannot themselves be to blame in this kind of election because that assumption destroys democracy. If I must vote for one of two bad candidates then the parties are never pressured to even pretend they represent the people. This isn’t hard, 19 year old college freshmen learn this stuff.

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                  Yes, and the people at fault are the democratic party, their consultants, and people like tracy who can’t get over their vaunted ‘lesser evil!’ world view to realize just how fucking toxic as individuals they are. we’re engaging because tracy needs the release and others need to see how toxic it is.

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      I see, so in order to save “democracy” people should have supported Genocide.

      Honeslty maybe the Democrats should have seen this coming to themselves for supporting, and I will repeat it once more in case you don’t understand, GENOCIDE.

      Imagine voting for 100% Hitler because another guy could be 150% Hitler.

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        I’m on this kick of pointing out that the utilitarian ethical calculation still works with 100% Hitler and 100.1% Hitler. Harm minimization, baby!

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          yeah its why no some takes utilitarian’s seriously. Hi friend I have this new policy where you give me your left arm and I don’t take your legs!

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              And I’ve been telling people for years thats a terrible fucking saying as well. (Also notice how little play that saying had this cycle.) Statistically speaking you may have lost your arm but you’ll still have the ability to write and walk! Sorry left handies! Nothing can be done for you! (Left handies are the arabs in the gaza story, lgbt in others etc)

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          So by your logic, in Nazi Germany, you would have supported Hitler if there was another guy that was even worse than him ?

          Do you even have a red line or can politicians just screw you over indefinitely for as long as there is someone worse !?

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            Also if the Democrats really wanted to win this elections, they would have run a different candidate that the one that is supervising Gaza right now !

            You can also go back and see that people said in a lot of pools that they saw the economy as a big issue for them. If the average person in America sees that their economic situation is getting worse with Biden and wants change, you don’t run his VP for president !

            The Democrats don’t care about you and they don’t care about winning. They are funded by the same billioners that fund the Republicans. They just want to kill minorities and cut taxes for the rich as much as Republicans but they don’t say it as clearly.

            The Democrats are just controlled opposition that takes away votes from the non-fascist parties in the US.

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      Another contributor to low turnout was massive voter suppression. It’d be interesting to see that quantified. Hundreds of thousands of voters were being purged in each of several states. The single-issue Gaza vote was lost in the noise of those gross examples of electoral manipulation.

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        I’m sure you’re right. It’s hard to know where to focus the blame most, but I am livid that this country is worse than my worst fears. On a certain level I am losing any desire to even care specifically how/why. I wouldn’t have considered not voting before this but now I honestly am 99.9% of the way to saying fuck it all.

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      Only 10% of the electorate even cared about Gaza. You’re giving the American people entirely too much credit.

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        I don’t know what point you think you’re making, but after yesterday I give the American people zero credit. Millions of voters stayed home pretending it was about gaza. It’s not my job to psychoanalyze them but I do know their actions contradicted their stated goal and that makes them frauds.