Thank you for providing the first real information here.
But the last paragraph doesn’t sit right with me, the things hamas did is not resistance. And also you make it sound like the Palestinians didn’t chose “Hamas” but in the end you try to relativize what happened on 7th of Oct as a result of “military occupation” etc.
So what now? Also I think its pointless to bring this up here, but seeing how people react across the world in terms of the terror atrocities, its quite clear on what side the palestianias stand on…on the wrong one. I am really sorry for people who ACTUALLY want to have a peaceful live, no matter what religion or origin.
The PLO were in power, Israel knew who Hamas were, and funded their rise to power (for what reason other than to manufacture the pretext for this genocide?), they also created and maintained the conditions that would motivate and justify violent resistance, so yes - Israel are responsible for Hamas.
In maintaining the horrible conditions I pointed to, Israel further motivated people to push back by any means necessary while giving them as little as possible to live for.
You don’t get to tell us you want peace as you defend a genocide. You don’t get to tell us about atrocities as the IDF gleefully document dozens per day, and you don’t get to tell the people you’re genociding that they’re wrong.
With that all clarified, what would justifiable Palestinian self-defence look like, and do those principles apply equally to Israel?
So basically Hamas is an inside job in order for Israel to exterminate innocent people? And the reasoning for that is…? I guess 7th October was also a self made incident?
What’s your explanation for Israel funding the terrorists’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable, deadly results?
What - you think Netanyahu cares about Israelis given his refusal of ceasefire after ceasefire and hostage exchange after hostage exchange? How quaint.
Seems straightforwardly clear that it was to manufacture the pretext for the current genocide.
For the third time - why did Israel fund Hamas’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results?
Kill the Palestinians, take their land - you know - exactly what they’ve been doing for decades, and were able to dramatically accelerate after October 7th.
Ah okay, Israel just wants more land… that is why they sacrifice their own people and kill “innocents”. Sorry but no, I rather see the truth in it. And seemingly the world is also moving towards that. Lets see what Trump will do in that regard. :)
Why did Netanyahu sacrifice Israelis to refuse multiple ceasefires and hostage exchanges?
…but more relevantly, for the 4th time, you genocide defending piece of shit, why did Israel fund Hamas’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results?
There’s a reason you’re refusing to answer the question - it’s perfectly clear that Netanyahu is willing to sacrifice Israeli lives if it means that he can kill more Palestinians. You keep stating the obvious in an incredulous tone because you don’t have an alternative explanation - there isn’t one. You tell us you see the truth, then get all shy about it.
Go cheer for more dead Israelis, ya antisemitic piece of shit.
Wow, that went dogshit pretty fast. Sorry to see that as soon as someone tries to reach deeper into your argument you go full illuminati. So yea Netanyahu is killing his own people so he can kill more palestinians, check. And I am all of a sudden also antisemitic, check. I think I take my leave… ^^
Thank you for providing the first real information here. But the last paragraph doesn’t sit right with me, the things hamas did is not resistance. And also you make it sound like the Palestinians didn’t chose “Hamas” but in the end you try to relativize what happened on 7th of Oct as a result of “military occupation” etc.
So what now? Also I think its pointless to bring this up here, but seeing how people react across the world in terms of the terror atrocities, its quite clear on what side the palestianias stand on…on the wrong one. I am really sorry for people who ACTUALLY want to have a peaceful live, no matter what religion or origin.
The PLO were in power, Israel knew who Hamas were, and funded their rise to power (for what reason other than to manufacture the pretext for this genocide?), they also created and maintained the conditions that would motivate and justify violent resistance, so yes - Israel are responsible for Hamas.
In maintaining the horrible conditions I pointed to, Israel further motivated people to push back by any means necessary while giving them as little as possible to live for.
You don’t get to tell us you want peace as you defend a genocide. You don’t get to tell us about atrocities as the IDF gleefully document dozens per day, and you don’t get to tell the people you’re genociding that they’re wrong.
With that all clarified, what would justifiable Palestinian self-defence look like, and do those principles apply equally to Israel?
So basically Hamas is an inside job in order for Israel to exterminate innocent people? And the reasoning for that is…? I guess 7th October was also a self made incident?
What’s your explanation for Israel funding the terrorists’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable, deadly results?
What - you think Netanyahu cares about Israelis given his refusal of ceasefire after ceasefire and hostage exchange after hostage exchange? How quaint.
Seems straightforwardly clear that it was to manufacture the pretext for the current genocide.
Thats quite the “theory”. Also I am still failing to see the motivation? “just kill some muslims” and sacrifice some of our own for that?
For the third time - why did Israel fund Hamas’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results?
Kill the Palestinians, take their land - you know - exactly what they’ve been doing for decades, and were able to dramatically accelerate after October 7th.
Ah okay, Israel just wants more land… that is why they sacrifice their own people and kill “innocents”. Sorry but no, I rather see the truth in it. And seemingly the world is also moving towards that. Lets see what Trump will do in that regard. :)
Why did Netanyahu sacrifice Israelis to refuse multiple ceasefires and hostage exchanges?
…but more relevantly, for the 4th time, you genocide defending piece of shit, why did Israel fund Hamas’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results?
There’s a reason you’re refusing to answer the question - it’s perfectly clear that Netanyahu is willing to sacrifice Israeli lives if it means that he can kill more Palestinians. You keep stating the obvious in an incredulous tone because you don’t have an alternative explanation - there isn’t one. You tell us you see the truth, then get all shy about it.
Go cheer for more dead Israelis, ya antisemitic piece of shit.
Wow, that went dogshit pretty fast. Sorry to see that as soon as someone tries to reach deeper into your argument you go full illuminati. So yea Netanyahu is killing his own people so he can kill more palestinians, check. And I am all of a sudden also antisemitic, check. I think I take my leave… ^^