Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

  • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    It really didn’t have much to do with abandoning anyone. It didn’t matter what democrats proposed at all. The vast majority of people answers they were dissatisfied with America in exit polls. The economy is doing fine on paper but people don’t feel that way. It was the inability to distance from Biden and provide actual radical solutions to things that got them voted down.

    At this point it has nothing to do with working class policies. It has everything to do with voter dissatisfaction and pandering to moderates.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      The third dimension of the political compass is radical vs. moderate. People want more radical change, and the Democrats didn’t meet them there.

      • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Exactly. In a high dissatisfaction environment, you must do your best to distance from the status quo which is why Trump got elected twice. It’s not that democrats are proposing bad policies, it’s that they’re only associated with changes that don’t mean much to average people. They represent the status quo far too much to be interesting.

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      13 days ago

      The economy doing fine means nothing for 99.9% of people. All that means is rich people made money. People have seen a decrease in their pockets

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        12 days ago

        The economy doing fine means nothing for 99.9% of people.

        this isn’t actually true. The economy just leads the people in most circumstances. 6 Months from now the economy will be doing better than it was now, and people won’t be struggling as much. Not due to trump, amusingly enough.

        Also inflation is irrelevant, you can’t really just undo inflation. Sure you could just, not do it. But good luck with that one. Inflation is really just a mechanism to offset economic dysfunction, and broaden the impact of it. Such that you don’t have a complete global collapse of trade for example.

        • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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          12 days ago

          Not sure why everyone keeps suggesting that the economy will do well under trump. It will only do well if he doesn’t do anything. But the deportations alone will be a disaster.

          You’re talking about entire towns losing their farming and dairy communities overnight, not good. Same is true of healthcare workers and food service. Housing prices might double.

          And if he does the tariffs, we’re cooked. Recession would happen the very next day no question. So he has like 5 different ways he already plans on taking the economy, he just needs to try one of them and we’ll be in recession.

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            12 days ago

            Not sure why everyone keeps suggesting that the economy will do well under trump. It will only do well if he doesn’t do anything. But the deportations alone will be a disaster.

            and the tariffs. And the isolationism, and the retraction from globalism. Plus his intent to move the fed under the control of the executive. Generally, all in all, a bad outlook.

            it’s going to be an interesting four years for sure, and i have two litmus tests for how fucked we are. If the tariffs go through, we’re moderately fucked, and if the fed gets put under exec, we’re joever.

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      12 days ago

      Yep. The “liberal media” kept up a drum beat with the inflation and of course did next to nothing to tell the low info the real source and it wasn’t all inflation.