I joined lemmy after reddit API changes, as many people did. At first, it was amazing. The community felt so alive, so friendly and welcoming. Obviously, the activity wasn’t exactly as large as it was on reddit, but I was patient, I knew more stuff was coming, and I was excited for it.

Unfortunately, this period would not last long. It would not last even a week until I got into my first argument with a tankie. I saw them and argued with them from time to time on reddit, but people there usually saw right through the bullshit and downvoted them to oblivion.

Here, it was so much different. They were all upvoted and supported by hordes more tankies. Constant genocide denial in China, support for Ruzzia, and somehow, for North Korea.

In retrospect, I should have left then, abandoned lemmy then and there, not really return to reddit, just leave both alone. I would have saved myself some sanity.

But I didn’t, which I regret. I wasted my time here, constantly seeing this bullshit, and sometimes, I didn’t even have the motivation or energy to argue with them.

The amount of genocide denial, dictatorship praising, and insane arguments I’ve seen in a month blew past the amount of this shit I’ve seen on reddit in a fucking decade.

I don’t see the future in this, none whatsoever. Lemmy will be here, but it will always stay a tankie hellhole unless you block thousands of people and whole instances. And if you do, the tankies will always just migrate to other instances to keep spreading hate.

You guys are awesome. Keep doing what you are doing, but I am tired of this bullshit and I am done.

  • IcyToes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    104·
    12 days ago

    I’m a leftie, but not a tankie. I’m not a fan of autocracy, or defending atrocities. Tankies are misguided but there are many decent communists, even if I do not agree with their views.

    On Reddit, the Overton window is way over to the right. You make the point their posts are downvoted to oblivion. Of course with that, any left wing view is often down voted to oblivian. In a space where it is left leaning, like Lemmy, you don’t get that and you have a more diverse debate. You’ll get liberals over on .world engaging with communists, socialists and tankies. Some can handle a site where left wing views are allowed. Some won’t. You have a block feature where you can block, grad, hexbear and even lemmy.ml if you’re really struggling to digest left views.

    If not, maybe your views are more rightwards than you realise and that bias on reddit is more comfortable. If that is the case, it may be better for you over there.

    I personally don’t get how people cannot understand that people have different views, especially in different countries. I’m left in the UK, a socialist, and sometimes Americans think that is a euthenism for communism because they cannot comprehend that the state can have a role in reducing inequality.

    You highlight that genocide denial is rampant, but I see here people comfortable to be critical of Israel’s treatment of Palestine. I think only some genocides/atrocities you want to see discussed.

    Either way, I hope you find an environment you’re comfortable in. Not everything has to be a battle.

    • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      12 days ago

      The genocide denial is very selective. If a “western nation” involved. You’ll generally see widespread near universal condemnation. Should you dare to point out other genocides, historical or contemporary with leninist, Maoist, Stalinist ties. Be ready for strong tonal whiplash. Because apparently it’s only genocide when capitalists do it. When those groups do it, it’s a noble involuntary sacrifice for the proletariat by the benevolent vanguard party.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      710·
      12 days ago

      For real. The people who flounce like this complaining about “too many tankies” tend to be right-wingers who are frustrated this is not reddit v2.