The measure received 14 votes in favour, with the US the sole member to reject it. However, because the US is a permanent member of the council, it has the ability to veto any resolution brought forward

Unlike several previous resolutions regarding a ceasefire in Gaza, Wednesday’s measure was brought forward by all 10 elected members of the Security Council.

The US has vetoed four previous attempts at calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, on most occasions being the lone vote against the measures.

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    It’s a fucking genocide. Stop the killing sort the hostages after.

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      sort the hostages after.

      “Sort” the hostages “after” what?

      So in your imagination Israel unilaterally stops fighting against Hamas while (a) Hamas continues to hold civilians hostage, doing all manners of physical and psychological torture to people who only happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and (b) Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and tribal gangs continue to wage attacks against Israel? And then (and only then), Israel comes back to the negotiating table with Hamas once again for yet another round of negotiations to try to free the hostages, only for Hamas to decide to move the goalposts?

      Is this really the type of illogical nonsense people here believe in?

      No wonder this shit has been going on for decades… Y’all have lost your damn minds if you think that the world works this way.

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        Stop the genocide. Stop the killing of innocent civilians. Now.

        Then, reach a deal for the hostages, like the ones Netanyahu has repeatedly shot down.

        Then, end the occupation: get Israel the fuck out of Gaza, the fuck out of the West Bank, the fuck out of East Jerusalem, back to their 1967 borders.

        Or, if you don’t think this is realistic (and it isn’t because with almost a million settlers, the Israeli right has destroyed the material conditions required for the 2 state solution) prefer cleaner solutions, end Jewish supremacy in Greater Israel (Israel+West Bank+Gaza+Golan+Shebaa). One state, one democracy, equal rights for everyone.

        Persecute all war criminals, Israeli and Palestinian. Then run a truth and reconciliation process, with reparations.

        Justice, right? Crazy, I know. Illogical shit.

        Here’s the catch: without justice there will be no peace. Enjoy your endless cycle of violence.

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          There is no “justice” in any circumstances in which the hostages are not immediately returned.

          Then, reach a deal for the hostages, like the ones Netanyahu has repeatedly shot down.

          So you’re literally just confirming this:

          So in your imagination Israel unilaterally stops fighting against Hamas while (a) Hamas continues to hold civilians hostage, doing all manners of physical and psychological torture to people who only happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and (b) Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and tribal gangs continue to wage attacks against Israel? And then (and only then), Israel comes back to the negotiating table with Hamas once again for yet another round of negotiations to try to free the hostages, only for Hamas to decide to move the goalposts?

          You must have read “Art of the Deal”.

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            Explain why Israeli lives matter more than Palestinian lives. Like, be precise.

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              Who said they are? Only you so far.

              You should be more precise with your weird, non sequitur questions.

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                You keep only talking about 97 Israelis when tens of thousands of Palestinians are dead and countless other are maimed, injured, starved, disposessed. You obviously value those 97 lives more than any of that. Explain why.

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                  It’s cynical and frankly fucking disgusting that you view human lives as nothing more than numbers.

                  Is this just numbers to you? Is that how you quantify the value of human life?

                  If so, you are beyond help and reasoning.

                  Nothing can be done for the thousands of people on both sides of this conflict who have been tragically killed in a pointless war, but that does no mean that the people who can be saved right now, today, shouldn’t be. I want the immediate release of the hostages, because 1 innocent person taken hostage and tortured for months in an injustice to people everywhere. I want a ceasefire because 1 innocent person killed in a pointless holy war is an injustice to people everywhere.

                  The real question, and the one to which I can only guess your disgusting answer, is why you don’t…

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                    Two scenarios for what happens TONIGHT.

                    Scenario 1, no ceasefire: the genocide continues, several Palestinians die tonight. The hostages remain hostages. No chance of release. They might get bombed by mistake even.

                    Scenario 2, no-deal ceasefire: genocide ends, no Palestinians die tonight. The hostages remain hostages. No chance of them being killed by mistake. A chance for a political settlement where they get released.

                    Do you see the fucking difference?