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Absolutely no surprise there. When you keep the barrier to entry low and throw in an algorithm to increase “engagement” via outrage, the soup turns to poison quickly.
This is why every time someone says the Fediverse is “too confusing,” I just smile and nod. That attitude of petulant, lazy, self-imposed gatekeeping is what’s keeping the Fediverse a much nicer place to be.
It’s concerning just how many people can’t be bothered to spend 5 minutes to pick an instance… Keeps it nicer for us though
I’ve been explaining it like email. There’s no email webpage you go to to create an account. It’s just a protocall a bunch of people have agreed to use, so you go to one of them and you create an address. I also think your username in the fediverse should be called an address too, but I don’t think that’ll catch on. It makes it a lot easier to explain, because everyone can use email, even the most tech illiterate people.
Absolutely agree. I love the high barrier to entry and how it has kept the conversations (for the most part) more substantial.
This this this. The fediverse being “confusing” keeps the idiots, boomers, trolls, and overall horrible people away. Having to learn something new is too much for those people. Lemmy/Mastodon and so on are “nerd” platforms, and I really like it that way.
Honestly apps like Threads and Twitter should just be a containment site for these types of people. Let them be…
If threads scoops up all the people who turned twitter and reddit into celebrity gossip meme ghettos and keeps them in the shallow end of the pool then everybody wins
I won’t call em ghettos, those are concentration camps in which everyone slowly gasing themselves with toxic culture just like what shown in 4chan
Great, and they’re going to try to federate? Hope it doesn’t go well for them.
Seriously, day one and it’s basically Stormfront Lite
Why is everybody on these platforms “4 something” now? Politics isn’t football, you don’t pick your team and have to let everyone know about it.
If you’re a racist/white nationalist you do in coded language.
I am now 4 being a sloth, working hard is overrated.
I am only on a platform “for something” if that “something” is AOC. Purely for professional reason.
No lie, her Amongus Twitch streams were pretty lit.
They are basically corporate accounts that are payed to be bigots online. You are looking at literal astroturf and asking why it doesn’t feel like grass.
After over 3 decades of voting, across 3 countries, even having held beliefs all the way from what I though was “communism” (when I was little more than a kid) through neoliberalism and finally settling down to a sort of social democracy (shaped by and subservient to my principles) and having even been involved in a supposedly thinking leftwing party around here I would stay that mindless tribalism is exactly what almost the entirety of politics is nowadays.
The whole “building your on political beliefs starting from your core principles upwards, and always keeping them in mind” thing is very unusually: normally (even in that supposedly “thinking” people party) it’s all about choosing sides, growing an emotional bond with your side and then just blindly waving the team’s flag and unskeptically take in and parrot whatever your side’s celebrities says as if they’re unchallangeable truths delivered down all the way from the gods.
In fact I’m pretty pissed from discovering that most people in even that party of supposedly thinking people are little more than clubist political parrots. It does however explain why so many measures people parrot as the right thing to do are actually one-sided and in practice not anchored in the principles we’re told they’re suppose to promote, sometime even de facto going against them: when people are unskeptical unthinking fans of the team, they’re really easy to lead by the nose by womever captures the leadership positions on that team, an sometimes said leaders aren’t even purposefully manipulative, they’re just nowere as bright as their small-pond celebrity status makes them think and generally have ridiculously narrow life experience and hence don’t really know much about how the World works outside their tiny tiny bubble.
In a place with first past the post voting, two parties will dominate and then it does become a sports game.
Two player games are fundamentally different than three or more player games, in terms of which strategies are optimal to win.
Ranked Choice.
Or STAR
Or fucking anything better than what we have now.
Politics isn’t football, you don’t pick your team and have to let everyone know about it.
It’s a preservation strategy for failed ideologies.
Clusterfuck is happening!
In my country all the influencers are announcing the same things using the same template. I wonder if it’s a subsidized or monetized shill.
I’ve never had to block one person in my entire time on the Fediverse.
I’ve had to block a dozen in the first hour on Threads.
As the internet becomes more available, mass adoption leads to communities that are very unbalanced. And, more often than not, leaning towards personas we tend to avoid in real life. Reason being, the barrier to entry is not as high. Curiosity is a byproduct of education/environment and lead people to apply resourcefulness to uncover sites/forums/messageboards with like minded people. Yes, echochambers in a way, but these echo chambers were not driven by political beliefs, but rather simple mannerisms and etiquette. Toxicity on sites like Youtube, Reddit, Threads, Twitter, have increased, because Curiosity didn’t drive discovery/account creation, ads or fomo did instead. Mastodon/Lemmy (Fediverse) communities, in my opinion, are still driven by curiosity. For how long, is the question I’d like to impose.
Momsforliberty. It does not matter where they go. Pure toxic.
Klanned Karenhood
Hoes for Hitler.
^ This is the best one.
Well…as long as those types are happy with that shit, it means they won’t come to the fed.
We’re this close to conservatives referring to trans people like ((this)).
I am shocked by this turn of events. Shocked I say.
well not THAT shocked
Holy shit, they launched Threads pre-enshittified. Massive time saver if you ask me.
We’re only halfway through 2023, but I already decided to make “enshittification” word of the year for me.
Actually, screw that! Make it word of the decade!
Threads is already banned in Europe and won’t withstand the scrutiny of Federation. Too many bigots. I’m certain Zuck doesn’t care either way. The thing is set up as an advertising medium for the GOP. Same old Cambridge Analytica scheme repeating.
banned or not yet released?
Banned until further notice. Zuck would have to gut the main function of Threads before it will be allowed over there. https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/threads-no-eu-launch/
If kbin allows them to federate here, then I’m out of here.
Kbin allows you to block an entire instance.
Yeah but in this particular case it really needs to happen at the instance level rather then the user level, and preferably all instances at that. It’s about mitigating the damage that Meta/Facebook are going to do (to the entire fediverse as a system) more than it is about not seeing shitty low-effort racism or whatever they’ll have there.
If I could actually trust Meta to be benign then I’d maybe agree with you about just blocking their shit as a user, but there’s just no chance of believing that about them.
Maybe someone can fill me in on this because I don’t know anything about it. “LibsofTiktok” is clearly just a right wing actor making liberal viewpoints look stupid, yeah? No one who actually identifies as “liberal” would ever willingly call themself a “lib.”
The woman behind it has become a kind of conservative celebrity. She doxxes random people, especially teachers who talk about their sexuality on TikTok and sends her minions to harass them. In the past, she has caused bomb threats to children’s hospitals for providing gender affirming care. She is about as despicable as a person can be.
She is behind bomb threats to the children’s hospital in Boston. She is 100% ghoul.
