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    I watch games about the game in gaming, but I also watch games about my game when I’m not gaming. Therefore by definition my gaming will be less than my watching gaming.

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      21 minutes ago

      What if gaming time is 4 hours, you spend 3/4 of gaming time playing games, and you watch gaming videos for one hour outside gaming time?

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    Makes enough sense, as goofy as it sounds.

    1. No Money. - Videos let me watch games that aren’t worth buying to me along with letting me parse games that look fun enough to buy.
    2. No Time. - Videos can be put on during other chores or tasks, left on as background noise during times where I would absolutely not have enough time to actually play a game.
    3. Skill Issue. - No matter how good I want to be, I’m ultimately just kinda ok at games. Watching higher level players can be a way for me to learn tips and tricks to improve, or they can be a way for me to experience difficulty levels of the game I will never realistically achieve on my own.
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    2 hours ago

    Where’s “New report claims sports fans spend more time watching sport / videos about sport than playing sport”.

    This isn’t some new, crazy, hard to understand concept.

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    4 hours ago

    That’s partly because it’s now more important to know what you’re doing, than figuring out what you’re doing, or just enjoying the fight. Unless you’re willing to just tank insults while playing, and rebuild and retry with constant leavers, you have to study. Usually people try, but often they sit back and give in to “experiencing” games through video instead.

    WoW for example has almost no tolerance for flawed teammates anywhere anymore, I’ve seen countless groups that would rather sit outside a dungeon for hours, than be inside it for 15 minutes too long.

    And people no longer think “if you want good teammates, you have to build a team”, they instead think that everyone who joins the random matchmaker has a responsibility to be good. It’s rude to be bad at World of Warcraft.

  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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    Never watched a stream, never really understood the motivation. But i also don’t consume social media (besides lemmy) or such and am generally anti-social, so that might be that. I would be infuriated if those people wouldn’t do what I would do. Also the chat is… Annoying.

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      The wisdom of streams is simple.

      I do shit with my life other than gaming. If I want to experience a cool game without spending the money and without investing the time to get good at the game, it’s a no-brainer to watch a playthrough done by a professional gamer and a professional live commentator like the best streamers are.

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        37 minutes ago

        That makes sense. As someone who never saw the appeal in watching sports, this is probably the same league. But somehow it’s like watching porn when one isn’t in the mood for actual sex 😁

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    This thread got me thinking Lemmy needs a better “find a co-op buddy” community for games in general. If it’s here already, could use better marketing.

    Not sum’m I suffer from, but I want to see y’all living your best lives too. A good homie can make or break a game run.

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    All of my little cousins and nephews watch streamers. To them it’s more fun to watch someone play than to play most times. They don’t like dealing with challenging games all the time, they really just want to have fun. These kids do play games but they watch more than me so I tried watching some streamers and I get it. When I was growing up we had systems with multiple controller ports and no online. Online gaming was PC only until I went to college and console online took off. But growing up you had to bring your friends or cousins to play some Mario Kart 64. That was way different than playing with randoms online. Streamers kinda brings that connection back.

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      Streamers kinda brings that connection back

      In a parasocial kinda way…?

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      when my son plays he’s constantly talking through whatever he’s doing in the game. streaming has rubbed off that much

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    7 hours ago

    Expensive as the games are these days you gotta do copious amounts of research before plunking down those bennies

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      It is a free and easy way to experience 75% of the experience without even downloading it (data bloat has massively ballooned too, perhaps needlessly in some cases). Also linear stories, or procedural things not being as deep as they seem.

      Even when it comes to indie-appearing stuff I often don’t like the direction of the game design/difficulty, so it will likely be a more enjoyable experience in those cases too. The narrator also cuts boring bits or issues, also may do things I would not especially when it comes to skill or knowledge of said game. They may do silly things or tell a story. This may be 300% experience (of a new mix).

      EDIT: Also never really been into the idea of multiplayer games, competitive or cooperative for different reasons. So watching is a new avenue for that.

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    people want to play with friends, and with gaming getting lonelier, i think people are seekong the parasocial relationships on streaming sites.

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      or it’s because IRL our gaming interests aren’t something we can talk about. I haven’t had a IRL friend who thinks gaming is cool since I was 15. I’m 40 now. for 25 anytime I bring up my interest in games my ‘friends’ or girlfriends cringe and tell me to STFU about my weird immature stupid interest.

      on twitch and youtube i can find people who share my joy of games and appreciate them and openly talk about their fond memories of playing them and how important they were to their childhood. IRL talking saying shit like that gets you socially shamed and ostracized.

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        If “friends” or even “girlfriends” tell you it’s cringe, it’s them that’s cringe. Worker-bees with sticks up their arses. Get away from such toxic people.

        I get it, I’m gaming for 40yrs now, and i know how it feels to be ridiculed for it. Fuck them. Especially when it’s coming from people who spend their time watching TV or mindlessly scrolling fuckbook et al. They really should STFU. Gaming always was an art-form, now more than ever. And adults have a right to, nay, the freedom to enjoy their passions guiltfree.

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          Drag plays video games with drag’s partner. Right now @HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz is playing through Deathloop. We only have one copy, so unfortunately drag can’t invade its game and kick it off a cliff as Julianna, but it’s still fun to watch it play through the early stages. On its first loop after unlocking infusion, it got the Strelak Verso AND the Sepulchra Breteira! Only cooler thing would have been getting the Heritage Gun.

          Anyway drag can’t imagine having a partner who isn’t into games. Luckily, everyone drag has ever fallen in love with enjoyed a variety of entertainment media. Probably because boring people are too busy watching broadcast TV all day to hang out in the cool places.

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        Try to find new friends, or a community where your interests are shared. Anybody who makes fun of another person for their interests is not a good friend.

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    7 hours ago

    The article didn’t mention it but I’m curious what the breakdown is by age. I have to assume younger Gamers watch way more videos than older gamers.

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    Never really understood watching it when playing is also very little effort. It’s not football.

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      Interesting that you see a difference between the two. Football also does not require incredible effort to play, still a lot of people only watch it.

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      for me it’s mostly because I am too depressed and unmotivated to get out of bed and go sit in front of the console/PC but not depressed enough to put the dumb addictive black rectangle down

      (i am taking medication i hope this changes)

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      Well…

      1. “Videos about gaming” don’t necessarily have to be gameplay footage. Reviews, promotional materials, discussions etc. count. Maybe even stuff like Viva La Dirt League’s content which is live action skits about video games.

      2. Tutorials and walkthroughs exist.

      3. Some vintage systems are difficult to get up and running or even find. For a lot of people it’s easier to just watch an enthusiast do it on youtube.

      4. Especially on Twitch with streamers it’s as much about the player as it is the game.

      5. Especially with esports or speedrunning it’s like watching a sporting event. Even if you like playing football too there’s something to watching the professionals play at the top echelons.

      6. One can watch gaming videos while doing other things. When I was moving into my apartment in Greensboro I assembled my furniture while watching HCBailly play through the Gameboy Zelda games.

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      I’m definitely one of those people, but I work in an office where they let us watch shit on our phones as long as the work still gets done. A hell of a lot easier to watch YT videos than to try to sneak an Xbox S into a cubicle farm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      when playing is also very little effort.

      Same. Not only is it little effort, but you get to experience what the intended purpose of the game was without having to listen to some rando try out bad jokes or say lame stuff. Any time I look at a video tutorial I look for videos with no narration and once I figure out how to solve the problem I turn the video off and get back to the game. Watching someone else play a game just seems like a waste of time, personally

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          I hate watching people play video games too, but definitely for strategy or inspiration it can be helpful

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    10 hours ago

    I would say this isn’t me, but I started playing Dwarf Fortress lately and have probably been watching an hour of tutorials for every 30 minutes I play at this point. 😅

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      It’s not that bad! Once you’ve got the basics down you can just watch as everything explodes