It annoys me even though I’m still in the U.S.

Edit: For everyone saying CVs and resumes are different, that might be literally the case, but that is not how job applications are using them. I just went to this one:

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    11 days ago

    I’m not from either place.

    I was under the impression that a CV and a resume are different things. A CV is a general compilation of all things you’ve done, and a resume is a curated list used for applying to jobs.

    I do know that they’re used interchangeably for the most part, but this is how I was explained the difference in practice.

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      11 days ago

      They seem to be used interchangeably in the UK at the jobs I’m applying for, but what I have is definitely CV and not resume.

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      11 days ago

      They are the same thing.

      Lots of things list them both with a slash showing then to be the same thing.

      CV is more correct though.

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        They’re definitely not the same thing even though they’ve been used interchangeably more and more.

        A CV is a comprehensive overview of everything you’ve accomplished and can be fairly long in certain cases (I’ve seen CVs of specialized professionals or tenured professors that are close to 10 pages long).

        On the other hand, a resume is a concise list of your relevant skills and experiences that should be tailored to the position you are applying to and should almost never be longer than 2 pages.

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          I don’t know what to say.

          This is just outright wrong. But you so confident about it I doubt anything I will say matters.

          Every single person I have ever spoken to. From teachers in school, university advisors, parents, friends, family, HR staff, bosses, have said that a CV is no more than 3 pages. Almost always it is said to be 2, sometimes 1 is offered and very occasionally I have heard 3. But never more. Should always be tailored but I have heard people making generic enough ones that can be used for similar jobs.

          I guarantee almost all job that specifically asks for a CV would throw out a 10 pager.

          Unless you are talking about how things were in the 1800’s this is just wrong. Which I doubt anyone got a job with more than a handshake before 1945.

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            Maybe things are different here in Canada but that’s how I’ve always had it outlined. What you’re describing would be called a resume here and not a CV. The intents of the two documents are not the same.

            Most CVs that I’ve seen are usually closer to 3-5 pages but I’ve seen some that are ~10 pages.

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          Some people say that a resume is a shorter CV. But even a CV should only include the things relevant to the task you’re using for.

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            11 days ago

            Not traditionally. A CV should contain essentially everything whereas the resume is tailored to the specific position.

            CVs are much more common for academic positions but I’ve also seen them required for very specialized roles.

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              How do you explain that in Europe pretty much all countries only use the word CV then for any job?

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                By saying that I didn’t realize it was different in Europe. Often when we (Canada) do something different than the US, it’s because it’s closer to how it’s done in Europe and I assumed this was one of those cases.

                I’m planning on looking into this more when I have some free time as I’d like to understand where our approach to both documents came from.

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                  Fair enough :)

                  In all countries in Europe I’ve been, CV is used both as a “life document” and a targeted document to a specific job.