Fact is, the Lemmy ecosystem needs money to handle the growing server reqirements as more people migrate as well as the development cost of new features (I know Lemmy is OSS but the devs should still get some compensation for their effort).

Seeing how much some reddit users love awards so much that they cant stop giving money to Reddit to award posts protesting the api change, this could be a great way for users to voluntary support the ecosystem. It can be easily ignored by users not caring about them (clients could even add an option to hide them), but users liking the feature can go wild and this time the money goes to volunteers keeping this alive instead of greedy admins, power mods and investors.

Though there would be some big organization questions attached: attached:

  • Which server handles the payment? A centralized one, the one where the post was made or the one where the user giving the award account was created.
  • How will the money be shared between the Devs and the individual instances in a way that is fair but cant be abused easily.
  • lesnake@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    36·
    1 year ago

    The hard truth is that long term, we likely need another way besides donations to keep the ecosystem alive.

      • magic_lobster_party@kbin.social
        4·
        1 year ago

        Donations seem to work fine for Wikipedia as well. Same with internet archive. We should not underestimate the willingness of people to support a good cause.

      • Spaceman Spiff@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        This really needs to be higher.

        Running a Mastodon or Lemmy server is surprisingly cheap. With some specific tweaks and rules (esp. hosting images and video elsewhere), it can get even cheaper.

        If your only goal is to break even, then it’s amazingly easy. Roughly 1 of every 20 users contributing $1/month. Adjust the numbers as you see fit.

        Or a single, non-datamined ad at the top of the page.

      • lesnake@lemmy.worldOP
        11·
        1 year ago

        Looks like donations work surprisingly well with the current userbase and current expenses. The projects on opencolective are doing quite well.

        Lets just hope this stays that way for a while.

        I doubt its sustainable that way forever though if more reddit users and subreddits migrate. So if donations arent enough anymore in the future, I hope they choose something like awards instead of flooding the site with ads, analytics or paywals.

        • static@kbin.social
          3·
          1 year ago

          So when scaling up

          You expect that : costs per user rise and donations per user drop?

          I expect that: costs per user drop, donations per user stay the same, and external subsidies rise.

          • lesnake@lemmy.worldOP
            21·
            1 year ago

            Basically yes, but I also assume the cost per users drops/stays the same

            I think the next ppl joining are mostly teens who dont consider donating,but would consider occasionally buying something like awards

            I doubt external subsidies can cover the missing donations.

            Edit: Also I assume ppl in their early 20s are more likely to buy awards than donate.

            • static@kbin.social
              2·
              1 year ago

              And even then there could be donated vs award servers.
              I prefer to focus on the donated ones.

              It was a bit mean/dishonest from me to frame costs for you.
              my guess of dounations just does not match yours.

              • lesnake@lemmy.worldOP
                2·
                1 year ago

                I assume you that awards are optional for each server.

                How would you determine if awards are enabled? The server of the community or the server where the account was created?

    • Spzi@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Or maybe some people just can’t imagine how this could work without being centered around money.

      Lemmy has been around for years. New instances are popping up as new users come in. So far, I haven’t seen an instance suffering from lack of funds, but others being funded for months ahead, some even donating excess funds to Lemmy devs.

      All while topics like these pop up every other day. For me, it looks like catastrophization. Seeking solutions for problems which do not exist (yet? Not even sure about that).

      • lesnake@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        I dont expect a decentralised platform to be profitable and also think donations are better than in-app purchases.

        But I dont want big instances to suddenly turn off because they cant afford it anymore or the development being behind so much we loose users to missing features.

        Looking at the donation pages of lemmy instances there are enough donations for now but it is good to have a plan B for in case we get flooded by users not willing to donate so this platform survives long term. That plan B should be as least Invasive as possible,so no ads,analytics or paywall. Thats why I suggested something that is completely cosmetic.

        • ANGRY_MAPLE@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          I think a good start before all of that would be for struggling instances to tell their user base that they are struggling.

          Not going to lie, awards like that would probably make me start looking for another new platform again. I don’t want that part of reddit, personally. I want comments that are there to be there, not comments that are only there to get the most positive feedback. For me, doing this would take lemmy further away from being an open forum, and move it closer towards being a lame popularity contest. I can only see the same jokes so many times.