Fair enough, but that’s still a form of scrapping as opposed to outright immediate sinking of the vessel. Far too often vessles are sunk, mostly intact, and that is causing countless amounts of pollution in our waterways.
The point in question here is how public the event would be, not how effective. So in that regard, yes, Trump’s and even Epstien’s trials were quite public, regardless of how effective they were at rendering justice.
You’re attacking a straw man, which is how effective the judicial system was. As for that attack, you’re absolutely right. Those three instances had laughable results and dumbfounding failures of justice.
Remember these are not pirates they are crew being told what to do with families back in Mother Russia and a great many pressures on them. Better a trial with all the details spewing forth and Russia blaming birdstrike and threatening armageddon over a cable.
I can’t have sympathy for someone who’s committed war crimes.
I agree that having a platform to expose Russian interference is helpful, I also think setting an example to those who are helping Russia (coerced or not) is far more helpful than exposing Russia.
Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.
Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.
Thats one far fetched speculation after another.
You have no idea if they are state sponsored or not, and no data to prove it either way. Their actions follow a pattern of state sponsored destruction, but somehow you deny it. Seems you are just making stuff up here.
Hang the captain and first mate, take the oil, sink the ship. This is how we’ve always dealt with pirates.
Scrap the ship, don’t sink it. We have more than enough waste on the bottom of the various oceans and seas as is.
You can responsibly strip and scuttle large vessels to help facilitate reef development
Fair enough, but that’s still a form of scrapping as opposed to outright immediate sinking of the vessel. Far too often vessles are sunk, mostly intact, and that is causing countless amounts of pollution in our waterways.
You are really bad at pirate
But you have heard of me.
A Pirate can be eco-conscious without breaking Pirate ‘code’.
They use end of life ships for this shenanigans anyway. They are essentially already scrap.
This is normal for russian navy as even their flagships are in a state a civilized nation would consider “scrap”.
Moscow didn’t even know it was being sunk since its systems were in such disrepair.
Does hitting a Russian warship with it at full speed count as scrapping?
Aim it at the port of St Petersburg and put it on full power. Let them deal with it
The captain is Georgian and the crew is Georgian and Indian according to the article, why saint Petersburg?
Because its literally Russian black fleet ship
In some civilized parts of the world, we’ve renounced death penalty some time ago and only the far-right wants it back.
“They go low, we go high!”
If not wanting state sanctioned killings is your “high”, you might have other problems.
What is your “high”?
We are going to high-road the shit out of them.
An extremely public trial would be more effective.
can’t get more public than a hanging on the docks that’s live streamed.
You definitely could. A hanging lasts less than a day. A trial could stay in the Overton window for much longer.
Sink the boat so it interrupts shipping into one of their waterways. Do it with every sabotage boat from now on.
like Trumps? or Epstein? or the Pandora Papers?
the list goes on and on.
Overton window is broken. Putin threw someone out of it.
The point in question here is how public the event would be, not how effective. So in that regard, yes, Trump’s and even Epstien’s trials were quite public, regardless of how effective they were at rendering justice.
You’re attacking a straw man, which is how effective the judicial system was. As for that attack, you’re absolutely right. Those three instances had laughable results and dumbfounding failures of justice.
Remember these are not pirates they are crew being told what to do with families back in Mother Russia and a great many pressures on them. Better a trial with all the details spewing forth and Russia blaming birdstrike and threatening armageddon over a cable.
I can’t have sympathy for someone who’s committed war crimes.
I agree that having a platform to expose Russian interference is helpful, I also think setting an example to those who are helping Russia (coerced or not) is far more helpful than exposing Russia.
Being told to commit crimes. So, like pirates?
Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.
Thats one far fetched speculation after another.
You have no idea if they are state sponsored or not, and no data to prove it either way. Their actions follow a pattern of state sponsored destruction, but somehow you deny it. Seems you are just making stuff up here.
You are being deliberately obtuse and using other accounts to mark yourself up so no more food for you.
Good point, Vlad.
Strap em to an anchor
Fuck them with a rusty anchor
And how do we deal with saboteurs and enablers of sanctions evasion?