In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

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    5 hours ago

    You need a domain with enough reputation to not just get immediately flagged as spam, or sites outright refuse letting you use the email because they detect the domain as “invalid”.

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      Man you mean a handful of companies control email rules? Lol isn’t this what the proton guys are saying?

      They might be going about it the wrong way and in the interest of self profit, but there is truth to their points (on this one very specific thing).

      Democrats are absolutely not your friends either. They take money from big tech, isp, telecom lobbyists and anyone else with their wallet open same as Republicans.

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      2 hours ago

      I feel like this is an infinitessimal part of the problem.

      As in… to make a proton substitute you need a similar level of resources. If you have those resources then domain reputation would be a snap.

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      If your mail server is configured correctly this generally isn’t that big of an issue. You need a DKIM service on your mail server, and with that add some dns records (SPF records and DMARC) to the domain As long as those are in place and configured properly, you should be able to avoid most spam filters considering your domain invalid.