more adventures on rednote mostly because it’s entertaining how mad people get when i talk about it :3 /halfjoke
this was posted 12/31 btw so i don’t think “the mods haven’t gotten to it yet” is a real thing
#le is common in parallel to the anglosphere’s #wlw which i think is adorable
my number one qualm with little red book so far is there is no native translation like tiktok has. lots of google translate is necessary to get the social media to social :P
necessary disclaimer: fuck the CCP and all the real violence and repression they do. just want to give credit given where due, and so far here im just seeing a lot of assumptions with no evidence? so im gonna post what my experience is :) i welcome all to do the same
And China’s a genocidal imperialist totalitarian state if we apply the same standards.
The fact is legally speaking you currently are vastly less free in China. It’s moronic to claim otherwise. This is easily proven by looking at your rights on speech for example.
China is less free than most countries. China has a state that forces inequality because at their core the Chinese Communist Party is hypocritical and seeks to oppress the masses
They arrest anyone in the US who protests against the actions of the state.
But I’ll remember when I’m dying from lack of affordable food, housing, and healthcare, that at least I was able to share a few more of my hot takes online than other people.
Anyway, I’m not defending China. I hope you learn to get past the propaganda. It’s quite liberating.
I have protested against the state nany times. I have directly stated to Governor Mitt Romney, who was in office at the time, that I hoped he was a single term governor. I haven’t been arrested for that.
I have protested every military conflict the USA has been involved in since 1991 and Im not in jail.
Stating China is less free is a fact that’s not propaganda.
Less free in this one aspect perhaps, more free in others. Not really “freedom” when we have so many houseless people, people senselessly perishing from lack of healthcare and food, etc.
Also, it sounds like you were protesting for change within the system. People have drastically different experiences when they protest the system itself. They may even be arrested or deported, which is something I’ve personally seen happen. Talk to the anti-genocide protestors on college campuses about this “freedom” of yours. Hell, there are even laws against boycotting a genocidal regime in an organized fashion.
Nope less free across the board. China is a repressive state when it comes to rights. This isn’t an opinion it is a fact. There are countries freer than the USA but the overwhelming majority of nations are freer than China.
Have you ever studied any political philosophy in a formal setting? Im suspecting you have not since you seem to not understand what constitutes “freedom” in this context.
In China you can’t suggest they stop having their current government. That’s a HUGE problem if you are trying to argue how free a society us as it means the masses have no say in their future.
This is useless propaganda. I’m familiar with all of these talking points. The metrics used to determine freedom and democracy are invalid tools of Western Imperialist nations to bolster the illusion that we have more freedom that others.
I’m being cautious not to defend either state, but you are treading pretty close to sounding like you’re defending the US system, and I would like to remind you as one of the moderators here that defending inherently inequitable and oppressive systems such as capitalism, fascism, genocide, and imperialism are forbidden in this community.
As an aside if your claims that “defending inherently inequitable and oppressive systems such as capitalism, fascism, genocide, and imperialism are forbidden in this community.” doesn’t seem to appear in the guidelines for what is not approved in that instance. If this is your actual policy you should include that information in your sidebar.
That was my bad, and I’m sorry. I thought we were speaking in a completely different community. If I had realized this was the now-defunct 196, I would have stopped talking a long time ago. My bad.
Hey Link I think you’re confused, this isnt LibertyHub.
I was confused 🤦♀️This is embarrassing
I usually try to avoid discourse on 196, and I need to adhere to that practice.
You’re familiar with these claims but do ypu understand what they mean? I don’t think ypu have a clue.
You can compare the rights people have. China is going to be near the bottom of any logical assessment of rights as Chinese people do not have the rightsto free speech, the right to free expression, the right to determine the direction of the Chinese state who h ultimately means there is no freedom.
Im not defending America. Im rejecting the objectively flawed claim that they are as free as other nations when they are not. You currently have greater rights in Norway than you do in China. Hopefully you can see the difference.
Finally if ypu cannot defend capitalism here why are you defending China a nation wth a stock market and investor class? What economic theory are they pursuing when for-profit banks are investing in foreign companies and not ceding control to the workers? China is a capitalist nation wearing the skin of a socialist nation much like America currently wears the skin of a capitalist democracy.
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