Summary
Donald Trump signed an executive order declaring only two sexes, male and female, based on reproductive cells at conception, banning gender-affirming care, and limiting federal recognition of gender diversity.
Experts, including Dr. Richard Bribiescas, president of the Human Biology Association, criticized the policy as nonsensical, stating, “Clearly, this order is not fully informed by current biological science.”
Biologists noted the order oversimplifies human biology, ignores intersex individuals, and conflates sex and gender.
Critics warned it advances anti-trans rhetoric and risks legal challenges.
Critics warned it advances anti-trans rhetoric
Hmmm yes this floor appears to made of floor.
But they’re not talking about its effect on egg prices
Don’t you understand? You were the egg this whole time.
Ah, yes.
Trump will surely change his mind after reading their sternly written letter, because as we all know, Trump truly cares about science.
Changing his mind isn’t the goal. He constantly already does that for the highest bidder. The people who have to enforce this stuff and the courts that have to rule on it are the ones who need to be well aware of its nonsense, and the bigger of a mess that causes, the better.
He totally reads written reports too.
And he can’t read, at least not big words with more than 2 syllables.
Reminds me of the time someone wanted to define π = 3 because it would be more convenient to calcate with.
(Except bigotry isn’t quite the same as convenience, except insofar that it conveniently avoids having to acknowledge complex social issues)
conflates sex and gender
I read the order. It explicitly avoids defining gender and says that only sex should be used everywhere (which it does define, but incorrectly).
It basically says that the government doesn’t care about your gender, they just want to know what’s in your pants (or used to be).
I thought he declared one sex?
Imagine; all of this to prevent trans folks from using the women’s restroom… but now we can all use the women’s restroom by way of Executive Order. What a time to be alive!
I’m pretty sure now we all MUST use the women’s restroom as we’re all legally female.
Trump’s new sex definitions are impossible for anyone to meet. Everyone is legally nonbinary now. https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/trump-says-americans-are-all-intersex-not-female-b31f97ffd80d
I don’t necessarily support the law, but your take saying “everyone is legally nonbinary” is ridiculous. At conception, if you were able to remove and examine the genetic material in the cell, it would absolutely be apparent if it was XY or XX.
I love bashing Trump and his idiocy… but this is definitely not the way. It’s embarrassing for us liberals…
You’re talking about genotype. They define sex based on phenotype. It assumes that the genotype can only be binary (it can be X0, XXY, XYY etc). It also assumes that genotype equates with phenotype, which is also wrong given in utero hormonal exposures, testosterone insensitivity, etc.
The WH definition makes no sense for anybody familiar with biology beyond 10th grade level.
Nope, I’m not. But thank you for your “contribution”.
Your karyotype doesn’t determine what kind of gamete you produce.
See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome
AFAIK we don’t have any way to determine this before sex differentiation actually occurs. When sex differentiation occurs it happens as a response to hormones, not karyotype. It’s possible that environment could be the determining factor, as is the case with freemartins.
So no, it’s not an exaggeration nor embarrassing to say that nobody meets the order’s definition of male or female.
Wow this place is no better than Reddit. You can be incredibly wrong and still get all of those upvotes! Amazing!
no u
The WH accidentally invented Schrödinger’s Sex.
Of course it’s also wrong because unlike dead/alive sex is a bimodally distributed continuum we binarize for simplicity. Also, don’t look up the Schrödinger dude’s sexual preferences because you’ll puke. But that stays on brand too.
However, the law doesn’t talk about genotype. It talks about gametes. Embryos don’t produce gametes. The law does not specify a difference.
My point still stands but thank you for “contributing”.
Your point is taken poorly because you raise issue with people giving deservedly nonsensical interpretations to a nonsensical definition, while giving a pass on WH calling their definition an “incontrovertible biological truth”.
Executive order ‘ripped’, or maybe ‘blasted’ or whatever the latest word for ‘we made some tiny lil vid or headline saying maybe it wasn’t the best.’ I’m so sick of it. Sick of the way media portrays things. That’s it, the media has been SLAMMED by me, ripped, blasted, smoked! Whatever bullshit that basically means ‘we disagree, but have no teeth’ bleh
Right? Add to that, that the reasoning they always use is reasoning that no longer applies.
Stop wasting time with open letters, and arguing about the wording of laws and orders whose intents are crystal clear, and will be carried out in the way it was always intended regardless of any stupid fucking technicality you think you found.
If you want to see how history is going to play out on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10450
As usual President Felon is talking out his ass, doing nothing for Americans, and being led by the nose by christian fascists. Someone please get that man 25 buckets of KFC. Cardiac event in 3-2…
What about intersex people?
Everyone who does not fit into their categories, and everyone who cares about people who don’t fit into their categories, needs to understand that you don’t and can’t fight Nazis by proving them wrong in an argument. You have to fight Nazis by fighting them. Also understand that you will be on their list of targeted “misfits” soon enough, so fight in solidarity with everyone who already is.
Cured. Thank you Mrs. Trump for clearing that up so easily.
So they just denied the Judeo-Christian yhwh, because that being is androgyne.
It’s such a fucking stupid argument everyone is a human just get rid of male and female and sex all together.
Get rid of sex altogether? I’m already ahead of the curve
I am hypersexual, and I need sex.
Fuck you! I am a helicopter.
How…uh…how does a helicopter type stuff on the internet?
One doesn’t need fingers to send text.
You’ll have to complete in sports regardless, no more weight classes, no woman league, no special handicaps for helicopters. Your either good enough to compete or not. Also shame on you for what your people did to Kobe.
Fair. Get on my level. Eat shit. I’m … a helicopter. Get hellfired. Peace.
Yeah you’re a Robinson R-22
It is possible to give someone a concussion with only words. The key is, saying something so ghastly against what they believe and backing it up with as much fact as possible they literally concuss themselves with the fight they produce in their own mind against the encroaching reality they simply don’t want to believe exists. That girl that’s being mean to you when you haven’t even talked to her. Tell her when she turns 30 the only men interested in her will be college guys that want to run a train. At 40 she’ll need a friend to come along or they won’t join. This crushes her self image of an “alpha sexual being” and forces the reality she is actually an aging mortal with a ticking clock on her ovaries. You should play with your own variation because if everyone says what I said, it loses potency. Kinda how calling them future cat ladies doesn’t bite as much as it did in the 80’s because everyone did it. Or calling everyone a Nazi loses potency when you do it all the time. Think along the lines of actually plausible. “When you turn 40 you better have a good education you’ll need it to pay for sex”, or, “you’re so stupid you’re definitely walking in a snow storm for groceries for you and your senior cat when you’re no longer pretty enough to get guys to do it for you.” Give them a chance to process, and don’t even try to talk to them after, let them retreat to their friends and adapt to their new existence. They might do baby talk. Its hilarious. I hope someone verbally concusses trump. He has earned it. Idk with his age and past covid exposure if he would be fit to do more than drool… Probably work if someone had hunter biden level evidence against one of trumps kids. Messes up his dynasty.
It is possible to give someone a concussion with only words.
Is that what happened to you?
