• slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    sigh

    Again it is.

    Neither of those links suggested that it was illegal to lie. Why not? Because it is fucking impossible to tie that rule into a working possibility. Go read your own links yourself, because it is obvious that you haven’t.

    It talks about limitations on hate speech, etc, but you can lie without hate speech.

    Freedom of speech is an ideal, and is tied to state control of speech. There are all kinds of limitations, including public safety and defamation, etc. But if I called you a Martian, obviously that is a lie. What happens? Does the free speech police lock me up?

    I’m not interested in personal attacks, by the way.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Friend, the issue isn’t freedom of speech. It’s breach of contract. The establishment has policies which are the contract for using the designated space. If you breach those policies you are in violation of said contract that deems you ineligible to participate within the establishment.

      You do not have the right to intrude on other people’s establishments after being asked to leave for violating their written terms of service without being accepted back.

      Edit: for example, Lemmy.world has a rule of no advocating for future violence. Do I agree with it? It does not matter. They created the policy and it is their establishment. If I advocate for future violence they can ask me to leave, and if I argue with them they very well may ban be from posting/commenting there. It isn’t my freedom of speech that they are banning, it is my access to their establishment.

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      7 hours ago

      Again it is not.

      Neither of those links suggested that it was illegal to lie

      Which part of “the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas” caused you trouble?

      So, are you a USian?

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        7 hours ago

        I’m not sure if you are trolling or not, because any plain English reading is obvious

        Your own quote, as set out below…

        “the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas”

        That also applies to incorrect information ideas… or… lies. Or the truth… Or fantasy… Or anything in between…

        It doesn’t specify truth or otherwise. You are free to assume anything you care to - but it’s not in the actual text.

        As to your question, I have no clue about your insistence on me being whatever the thing is you keep repeating.

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          “the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas”

          That also applies to incorrect information ideas… or… lies.

          Are you a little bit slow?

          Which part of “information” or “ideas” cover lies?

          So, are you a USian as misunderstanding of free speach is common there?

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          As to your question, I have no clue about your insistence on me being whatever the thing is you keep repeating.

          i think theyre trying to spell asian