• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Cool study. What evidence is there that NASA has an unfair hiring practice they need to adjust for?

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      The study is evidence that there is a systemic disadvantage for non whites when hiring.

      Why should this not be the case at NASA? What makes NASA so special that findings, that showed true on a systemic level across six countries don’t apply to it?

      If you are interested, NASA did an audit on their progress on including DEIA in 2023.

      https://oig.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/IG-23-011.pdf

      Despite support from Agency leaders and multiple initiatives to increase diversity, we found NASA has made little progress in increasing the representation of women and minorities in its civilian workforce or leadership ranks. Specifically, over the past decade NASA’s overall workforce demographics have stayed roughly the same, with small increases (1 or 2 percent) for some groups. Demographics have not varied significantly over the same time period at individual NASA Centers, with only two Centers increasing African American representation and other Centers making small gains in Hispanic, Asian American, and women’s representation. We also found NASA has made few gains in the percentages of women and racial and ethnic minorities in its senior levels (General Schedule 14 and 15 positions and NASA’s Efforts to Increase Diversity in Its Workforce RESULTS IN BRIEF Senior Executive Service) over the decade. At the same time, the proportion of veterans NASA hires has declined over the past 10 years, most significantly from 28 percent in 2015 to 13 percent in 2021

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        1 day ago

        Sounds like they were already only hiring qualified people.

        Forcing DEI where there was no problem causes a problem.

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          So you don’t see the discrimination against non white people as a problem then?

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            22 hours ago

            I’m saying those statistics do not say that NASA discriminates against non-whites. They could, but theres no proof of it. Applying a blanket rule to all business whether they are discriminating or not is over-reaching.

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              22 hours ago

              Excuse me? The Audit made to look how much discrimination NASA is doing that states that there had been no progress in lessening (hiring) discrimination in a decade (!) doesn’t show discrimination?

              I already have shown proof of systemic discrimination in the hiring process against non whites. Of course a blanked rule is sensible to help mitigate this.

              What is the worst that can happen? A company that didn’t discriminate in the first place won’t be affected such a rule besides some paperwork maybe. But since most do (see the study above) it sure would help.