• spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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    9 hours ago

    I am absolutely disgusted by this. Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.

    You may have different opinions from me about the third party voters and the culpability they carry, but I hope we all can agree that Jason Call and company here are blatantly evil and have blood on their hands.

    Hoping this can be a moment of reactionary leftist unity. Fuck every leader who actively worked towards MAGA. I’m doing my best to organize and do damage control, but not because some dumbass Jill Stein employee told me to. You should too.

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      6 hours ago

      honestly, I have this nagging feeling that stein only runs to deliberately split the democratic vote. she knows exactly trumps position on Gaza, facism and capitalism. and she looks the other way either for personal gain, or because she supports trumps positions

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        38 minutes ago

        i don’t thing it has to be a nagging feeling 😧 i think this tweet basically proves it

        i mean he basically says “yeah we did this so trump would win”

        i mean yeah it’s with veiled language but only about as veiled as musk’s “my hear goes out to you”

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      8 hours ago

      Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.

      😳

      I’m not sure where you got all of that info. The tweet and article I read mentions none of what you listed him admitting to saying.

      I point this out not because I agree with him; I don’t. I point it out because these types of responses are misinformation, plain and simple. And we have enough of that from everyone else.

      We are to be held to a higher standard.

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        6 hours ago

        It is not remotely misinformation.

        Your comment is by suggesting otherwise. If the Green party in the US were actually a serious party, they would be involved in more than just the presidential election.

        So please. Stop spreading lies that the Green party is anything but what they are. Stop pretending they didn’t contribute to the rise of fascism. Stop pretending they didn’t contribute to a Trump win.

        And most of all, don’t pretend that they didn’t know Trump would go all in on genocide.

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          4 hours ago

          Stop spreading this misinformation, greens hold more offices than all other third parties combined in the US.

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            4 hours ago

            There is not one member of the green party holding a federal office.

            There is not one member of the green party currently holding a state office.

            It is not misinformation.

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              4 hours ago

              Correct, however there’s more than a hundred in local offices. You people always say of they were serious they’d start from the bottom, grass roots. They’ve been doing that. Your post is misinformation created by your billionaire owners to dissuade any effective organizing in any way that would hurt them.

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                Utter and complete nonsense.

                They haven’t been doing it at all. They put all the money into the presidential election - which they can’t win - blatantly, and by their own admission across multiple years to take away from democrats.

                They are a spoiler party. Thats it.

                I have stated nothing but facts, and your response is “but billionaires exist” - what in the wild wild west are you even saying?

                Complete nonsensical garbage. Not interested. Goodbye.

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          5 hours ago

          I’m not referring to the Green Party. I’m referring to the commenter above me and I quoted the part of their comment that I’m referring to as misinformation.