Please stop acting like you have any room to jump up people’s ass about the maintenance meds they’ve been taking for years that get them results when nothing else did.
I’m not. My beef is with the doctors who prescribe antidepressants without proper investigation of the causes of the symptoms.
Do you think a jog a day is the solution?
There will be some cases where this is true. But a jog a day is much more effort than having a pill. Particularly if you are out of shape. A pill is much easier for a doctor to prescribe.
easy solutions don’t require medical intervention.
Unfortunately paying customers want a medical solution. So they get prescribed a pharmaceutical solution.
If you really think the average person on antidepressants didn’t spend YEARS trying to solve it without any medical aid, your delusional.
My beef is with the doctors that prescribe antidepressants as a generic solution to all symptoms. Not the patients.
My beef is with the doctors who prescribe antidepressants without proper investigation of the causes of the symptoms.
I feel like you haven’t gone through the process yourself. I got driven to the point of confessing I would be better off dead before I was considered for anti depressants, it’s not just a “I’m sad today” “ok here are anti depressants”
This is a legitimate conversation, but not the time and place. I have had similar issues with SSRI’s being the only solution presented to me (despite previous experiences + knowledge of my body’s previous reactions to these medication being articulated in my refusal) and this is very much due to having an AFAB body.
However, SSRI’s are an effective medication for many people, and the priority in this conversation needs to be on this deranged attack on medical expertise and established understandings of the science. There very much are serious issues with diagnoses/prescriptions being used as alternatives to acknowledging societal problems and a way to make invisible/medically gaslight the understudied chronic illnesses primarily experienced by women, but there are also people who are chemically depressed and are being served by the chemical treatment model - attacks on this fact are profoundly unscientific and harmful and the fact that they are being made by someone potentially leading the medical “establishment” = DEFCON 1.
your contributions are irrelevant to the topic, and also super shitty to bring up around a lot of people that’re scared for the mental health of their families. “your beef” isn’t worth sniffing, so please take it elsewhere. you should be able to tell from ratios alone that your comments are unwelcome, shameless, and tactless.
YOU FEEL UNSEEN BY YOUR DOCTORS BECAUSE THEY DISMISS YOUR PAIN
that’s not related whatsoever, i’m sorry, i used to be in your position, i hope you get a real diagnosis for what’s wrong (mine was hEDS) because most doctors say it’s fibromyalgia when they don’t know and they’ve given up… that’s for-profit medicine for you… but, as i’ve covered elsewhere
people take anti-depressants for several problems, including fibromyalgia
So, do you think it might be related to how the US isnuniquely the only industrialized nation with no universal health care, minimal (if any) social safety nets, a shit economy that only benefits the upper 1%, and the very obvious fascist heading our country is on?
as someone that was also given an Rx for antidepressants due to a “fibromyalgia” diagnosis, it’s a working theory that one of the reasons for that disorder is, in fact, neurotransmitter dysregulation (e.g., norepinephrine) so that’s not completely off-base… sorry. it sucks, but it has to be eliminated as a mechanism. is it possible you have undiagnosed hEDS? that was the case with me, and a geneticist was able to sus it out. please google it, because if you’ve been diagnosed with fibro it means you have a vague nebula of symptoms that could be any number of things (e.g., lupus) and requires an extensive differential diagnosis which usually ends up being something else (if you’re anything like me).
“I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall"
Sounds like SSRI’s are voluntary attendance. But actions are more important than words.
You think concentration camps tend to be voluntary?
No. But RFK hasn’t threatened concentration camps. When referencing SSRIs he specificly said “if they want to”.
Or do you think people can just start and stop SSRI’s at will?
It is medically recommended to scale up and down dosage slowly for a reason. People have experienced negative side effects when they suddenly stop taking them.
Either statement is fucking stupid, and could only emanate from someone with an IQ less than their shoe size.
I would describe offering illegal drug users an alternative to incarceration is the opposite of stupid. What I can’t believe is that Republicans will let this happen.
No. But RFK hasn’t threatened concentration camps. When referencing SSRIs he specificly said “if they want to”.
Sure sure… They’re just happy fun camps!
It is medically recommended to scale up and down dosage slowly for a reason. People have experienced negative side effects when they suddenly stop taking them.
Titration. That’s what you’re thinking you know about…
I would describe offering illegal drug users an alternative to incarceration is the opposite of stupid.
People don’t take SSRI’s illegally…
What I can’t believe is that Republicans will let this happen.
Of course not, because that’s not the fucking point you human skin tag. See my first point above, where you assume they aren’t talking about concentration camps.
BTW, did you know who the first victims of the holocaust were?
OK, so you are in the first category
I’m not. My beef is with the doctors who prescribe antidepressants without proper investigation of the causes of the symptoms.
There will be some cases where this is true. But a jog a day is much more effort than having a pill. Particularly if you are out of shape. A pill is much easier for a doctor to prescribe.
Unfortunately paying customers want a medical solution. So they get prescribed a pharmaceutical solution.
My beef is with the doctors that prescribe antidepressants as a generic solution to all symptoms. Not the patients.
I feel like you haven’t gone through the process yourself. I got driven to the point of confessing I would be better off dead before I was considered for anti depressants, it’s not just a “I’m sad today” “ok here are anti depressants”
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I’ve been down the other road. Countless doctors dismissing symptoms as stress rather than fibromyalgia and prescribing antidepressants.
https://www.northwell.edu/katz-institute-for-womens-health/articles/gaslighting-in-womens-health
This is a legitimate conversation, but not the time and place. I have had similar issues with SSRI’s being the only solution presented to me (despite previous experiences + knowledge of my body’s previous reactions to these medication being articulated in my refusal) and this is very much due to having an AFAB body.
However, SSRI’s are an effective medication for many people, and the priority in this conversation needs to be on this deranged attack on medical expertise and established understandings of the science. There very much are serious issues with diagnoses/prescriptions being used as alternatives to acknowledging societal problems and a way to make invisible/medically gaslight the understudied chronic illnesses primarily experienced by women, but there are also people who are chemically depressed and are being served by the chemical treatment model - attacks on this fact are profoundly unscientific and harmful and the fact that they are being made by someone potentially leading the medical “establishment” = DEFCON 1.
I highlighted this group at the top of this thread. My beef is with dismissive doctors, not their chemically imbalanced patients.
your contributions are irrelevant to the topic, and also super shitty to bring up around a lot of people that’re scared for the mental health of their families. “your beef” isn’t worth sniffing, so please take it elsewhere. you should be able to tell from ratios alone that your comments are unwelcome, shameless, and tactless.
Lazy doctors pushing big pharma sponsored pills is right on topic. It doesn’t apply to everyone, but it applies to a large number of people.
11% of Americans over the age of 12 take an antidepressant.
This is a problem that shouldn’t be ignored even if it is being raised by a right wing, brain worm eaten anti vaxxer.
the reason you’re in this thread is because
YOU FEEL UNSEEN BY YOUR DOCTORS BECAUSE THEY DISMISS YOUR PAIN
that’s not related whatsoever, i’m sorry, i used to be in your position, i hope you get a real diagnosis for what’s wrong (mine was hEDS) because most doctors say it’s fibromyalgia when they don’t know and they’ve given up… that’s for-profit medicine for you… but, as i’ve covered elsewhere
people take anti-depressants for several problems, including fibromyalgia
SO MAYBE you should take a step back and chill
Unfortunately it is related.
I hear a lot of anger and fear from people about their medication. And everyone believes their case is justified.
Antidepressants are too readily prescribed.
The US is the world leader.
These two facts are relevant and not about me personally. They can’t be simply dismissed.
So, do you think it might be related to how the US isnuniquely the only industrialized nation with no universal health care, minimal (if any) social safety nets, a shit economy that only benefits the upper 1%, and the very obvious fascist heading our country is on?
Yes. “Cure all” pills are much cheaper than analysis. No wonder insurance pushes them.
Partially. This certainly increases stress and allows it to be (falsely?) used as a cause.
No. The rest of the world has worse economies but less antidepressants
Not the 1% in particular, but lower social class has higher usage of antidepressants.
Antidepressant overprescription has been building for more than a decade. It’s not just Trumps fault.
as someone that was also given an Rx for antidepressants due to a “fibromyalgia” diagnosis, it’s a working theory that one of the reasons for that disorder is, in fact, neurotransmitter dysregulation (e.g., norepinephrine) so that’s not completely off-base… sorry. it sucks, but it has to be eliminated as a mechanism. is it possible you have undiagnosed hEDS? that was the case with me, and a geneticist was able to sus it out. please google it, because if you’ve been diagnosed with fibro it means you have a vague nebula of symptoms that could be any number of things (e.g., lupus) and requires an extensive differential diagnosis which usually ends up being something else (if you’re anything like me).
It’s that the symptoms constantly change that is so frustrating. Thanks for the tips.
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https://time.com/7208914/symptoms-doctors-dismiss-anxiety/
I’m done discussing this with you.
Dude, writing a single word does not even begin a discussion.
Im more concerned about TV docs prescribing cialis to 50 year olds…
If thats the issue, then ban HIMS and HERS, and other mail order docs from advertising on TV or anywhere else.
Totally happy with this proposal.
Ok, no need to send people on SSRI’s to a labor camp, which is what has been proposed.
Sounds like SSRI’s are voluntary attendance. But actions are more important than words.
???
You think concentration camps tend to be voluntary?
Or do you think people can just start and stop SSRI’s at will?
Either statement is fucking stupid, and could only emanate from someone with an IQ less than their shoe size.
No. But RFK hasn’t threatened concentration camps. When referencing SSRIs he specificly said “if they want to”.
It is medically recommended to scale up and down dosage slowly for a reason. People have experienced negative side effects when they suddenly stop taking them.
I would describe offering illegal drug users an alternative to incarceration is the opposite of stupid. What I can’t believe is that Republicans will let this happen.
Sure sure… They’re just happy fun camps!
Titration. That’s what you’re thinking you know about…
People don’t take SSRI’s illegally…
Of course not, because that’s not the fucking point you human skin tag. See my first point above, where you assume they aren’t talking about concentration camps.
BTW, did you know who the first victims of the holocaust were?
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/nazi-persecution-of-the-mentally-and-physically-disabled
This is not a concentration camp