It started years ago. Chinese and European institutions were recruiting Americans almost a decade ago while I was still attending scientific meetings. Most of us could see the writing on the wall about American science. I was too close to retiring for such a jump to make sense for me then. I’m SOOOO glad I’m out of the game now. And grateful that I have a comfortable income from my pensions and SS without tapping into my savings.
Would if I could. My skills aren’t in demand in other countries, and my health would be an issue for those with universal Healthcare. I’m stuck, and have made peace with the fact that I’ll be a statistic of this administration. I’ll do what I can to prevent others from suffering the same fate, but realistically, I have no avenue to save myself.
Because I have a strong connection to the areas I’ve grown up in and I simply have moved too many times in my life. I have finally put down some sort of roots and started to build something to be proud of. I’m not leaving.
We already have. It’s been cheaper for a while now to go abroad for undergraduate and graduate school. Source: Me. I did this for the golden visa and got tricked by stupid sexy science. I have met several like me in the last decade. It’s been a long time coming.
Why? What loyalty or obligation is owed to a country just because you were born to it? It’s the country’s job to make you want to be a citizen, not the citizen’s to make the country act like it doesn’t hate your guts and see you as a wallet to fleece.
Yeah, there’s an option if you don’t want to do your part to make the world a better place… No one’s forcing people to stay in the world
So I should kill myself because America broke the social contract and I’d rather leave than die or become imprisoned fighting to repair it? Fuck you, my man. Revolution isn’t the only option when your government breaks the contract; is every immigrant a traitor?
Yeah, America told that coward Anne Frank to pull herself up by her bootstraps and sent the boat she took to the good ol US of A to seek asylum back to Germany.
I wonder what happened to that girl? Eh she probably got a hero’s welcome, challenged Hitler in the Free Market of Ideas, and won the day. At least I think so, I’m not sure, she wrote a diary but my local GOP Senators were kind enough to ban the book for being woke; it’s just not appropriate for people hiding in attics to call the people looking for them Nazis just because they happen to disagree on trivial matters like the value of a human life.
…do you think I’m saying this shit as “oh yeah, you’ll be fine if you fight back, nothing bad will happen”? Do you think I’m saying to only fight back with thoughts and prayers? There’s never any magical victory.
Anne frank was a child. 16 years old. Not old enough for self determination in the united states(barring some exceptions).
Genocides happen when people don’t stand up to stop them. Everyone needs to fight against encroaching evil, in ways small or big, to stand a chance to fight.
“Genocides happen when people don’t stand up to stop them…”-so you’re posting this from Gaza while you stand against the genocide going on there-right?
I don’t live in gaza. My only care on that is wishing for the united states to stop giving weapons to Israel to enable it. I believe people have obligations to their own areas. And that all beyond that is courtesy, unless they’re the cause of the damages.
But either way, one person can’t stand up for every issue. I chose mine. I chose my focus.
^ this person isn’t worth anyone’s time or effort. Ignore and/or block and don’t fall into the trap of trying to use logic to change the mind of someone who didn’t use logic to get there.
How bad will it get before people start emigrating?
It’s already started
It started years ago. Chinese and European institutions were recruiting Americans almost a decade ago while I was still attending scientific meetings. Most of us could see the writing on the wall about American science. I was too close to retiring for such a jump to make sense for me then. I’m SOOOO glad I’m out of the game now. And grateful that I have a comfortable income from my pensions and SS without tapping into my savings.
Cartoon “Brain drain” by Oliver Schoff.
Would if I could. My skills aren’t in demand in other countries, and my health would be an issue for those with universal Healthcare. I’m stuck, and have made peace with the fact that I’ll be a statistic of this administration. I’ll do what I can to prevent others from suffering the same fate, but realistically, I have no avenue to save myself.
Fuck that, I’m not going to let a born-rich-bottom-boy and a fucking wannabe Dr. Evil kick me out of my country.
Why do you care so much about a country that supports a “born-rich-bottom-boy” to do whatever they want?
I’ve had the opportunity to live in many countries, and I can tell you they’re much more pleasant than the US
Because I have a strong connection to the areas I’ve grown up in and I simply have moved too many times in my life. I have finally put down some sort of roots and started to build something to be proud of. I’m not leaving.
We already have. It’s been cheaper for a while now to go abroad for undergraduate and graduate school. Source: Me. I did this for the golden visa and got tricked by stupid sexy science. I have met several like me in the last decade. It’s been a long time coming.
People who emigrate in response to things getting bad are cowards …
Why? What loyalty or obligation is owed to a country just because you were born to it? It’s the country’s job to make you want to be a citizen, not the citizen’s to make the country act like it doesn’t hate your guts and see you as a wallet to fleece.
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Yeah I’m not killing myself because a minority of voters elected someone that’s ruining my life. Get fucked pal
So I should kill myself because America broke the social contract and I’d rather leave than die or become imprisoned fighting to repair it? Fuck you, my man. Revolution isn’t the only option when your government breaks the contract; is every immigrant a traitor?
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Wow, you guys actually think you don’t have any responsibility to fight fascism. No wonder it won so easily.
Yeah, America told that coward Anne Frank to pull herself up by her bootstraps and sent the boat she took to the good ol US of A to seek asylum back to Germany.
I wonder what happened to that girl? Eh she probably got a hero’s welcome, challenged Hitler in the Free Market of Ideas, and won the day. At least I think so, I’m not sure, she wrote a diary but my local GOP Senators were kind enough to ban the book for being woke; it’s just not appropriate for people hiding in attics to call the people looking for them Nazis just because they happen to disagree on trivial matters like the value of a human life.
/sarcastic as Hell
…do you think I’m saying this shit as “oh yeah, you’ll be fine if you fight back, nothing bad will happen”? Do you think I’m saying to only fight back with thoughts and prayers? There’s never any magical victory.
Anne frank was a child. 16 years old. Not old enough for self determination in the united states(barring some exceptions).
Genocides happen when people don’t stand up to stop them. Everyone needs to fight against encroaching evil, in ways small or big, to stand a chance to fight.
“Genocides happen when people don’t stand up to stop them…”-so you’re posting this from Gaza while you stand against the genocide going on there-right?
I don’t live in gaza. My only care on that is wishing for the united states to stop giving weapons to Israel to enable it. I believe people have obligations to their own areas. And that all beyond that is courtesy, unless they’re the cause of the damages.
But either way, one person can’t stand up for every issue. I chose mine. I chose my focus.
Why do you think like 97% of America’s population immigrated to America bruh?
No one said “Yeah I love loving where I am now, let me drop it all and move to an entirely new continent lol”
Erm, more than a few arrived in chains, entirely against their will.
Ah my bad, about 88%, with 9% from the slave trade.
I fail to see how those genocidal people have any bearing on my statement.
Congrats on the most stupid take my eyeballs saw today 👏
^ this person isn’t worth anyone’s time or effort. Ignore and/or block and don’t fall into the trap of trying to use logic to change the mind of someone who didn’t use logic to get there.
Bullshit. Would you have suggested Jews and Romani stay in Nazi Germany if they had the chance to leave?