What about true hermaphrodite? That’s a term for a specific type of intersex that has both sex organs fused together. And develop secondary sex characteristics during puberty.
fipto is using the same talking points anti-trans activists (like Matt Walsh) use to argue that intersex people aren’t real or legitimate - “hermaphroditism” in humans historically referred to when genitals are ambiguous or there is a combination of sex organs, including true hermaphroditism where the body develops ovaries and testes.
fipto’s point is only that in a narrow sense we haven’t yet recorded a case where an individual like this has produced a mature egg as well as viable sperm at the same time, though I think that may be false, since there is a recorded case of a true hermaphrodite who ovulated and successfully fathered a child (produced both eggs and sperm). This is rather rare, even for true hermaphrodites, though. (@massacre@lemmy.world you may care to see this too.)
As an aside about terminology: “hermaphrodite” is an outdated term, and the term “intersex” replaced it. Already a new term has begun to replace intersex in many contexts: “differences in sexual development” (DSD).
fipto’s point is somewhat irrelevant, though - there are humans who are true hermaphrodites and fipto’s motivations in making her point here are questionable.
The reality is that there is no great controversy among scientists on this, and the scientists themselves were happy to refer to people with ambiguous genitals as “hermaphrodites”, and the scarcity of people producing both eggs and sperm don’t undermine anything about the existence or reality of intersex individuals, because someone’s sex and gender is much more complicated than just which gamete they produce.
For fipto, however, who probably believes someone’s sex is based on the gamete they produce (a common lie peddled by anti-trans and anti-intersex activists), the lack of individuals with both eggs and sperm proves to them that intersex individuals do not actually exist. They probably think each of those intersex individuals can be actually classified with the binary sex system that the evidence does not support, and which scientists have moved on from. The main motivations to hold onto a view like this are, like for anti-vaxxers and creationists, social and political rather than based in evidence.
recommended follow-up:
the video Sex & Sensibility by a biologist who debunks and responds to anti-science content by creationists, and in this case anti-trans and anti-intersex activists like fipto
the Nature article Sex Redefined covers a lot of the same territory about how science has now moved on from thinking in terms of a strictly binary sex for humans
the 2023 documentary Every Body might be of interest (was very interesting learning about Alisha Weigel, for example - and it was eye-opening to learn the anti-trans movement are the ones advocating child mutilation, through non-consensual surgeries on intersex children).
What about true hermaphrodite? That’s a term for a specific type of intersex that has both sex organs fused together. And develop secondary sex characteristics during puberty.
fipto is using the same talking points anti-trans activists (like Matt Walsh) use to argue that intersex people aren’t real or legitimate - “hermaphroditism” in humans historically referred to when genitals are ambiguous or there is a combination of sex organs, including true hermaphroditism where the body develops ovaries and testes.
fipto’s point is only that in a narrow sense we haven’t yet recorded a case where an individual like this has produced a mature egg as well as viable sperm at the same time, though I think that may be false, since there is a recorded case of a true hermaphrodite who ovulated and successfully fathered a child (produced both eggs and sperm). This is rather rare, even for true hermaphrodites, though. (@massacre@lemmy.world you may care to see this too.)
As an aside about terminology: “hermaphrodite” is an outdated term, and the term “intersex” replaced it. Already a new term has begun to replace intersex in many contexts: “differences in sexual development” (DSD).
fipto’s point is somewhat irrelevant, though - there are humans who are true hermaphrodites and fipto’s motivations in making her point here are questionable.
The reality is that there is no great controversy among scientists on this, and the scientists themselves were happy to refer to people with ambiguous genitals as “hermaphrodites”, and the scarcity of people producing both eggs and sperm don’t undermine anything about the existence or reality of intersex individuals, because someone’s sex and gender is much more complicated than just which gamete they produce.
For fipto, however, who probably believes someone’s sex is based on the gamete they produce (a common lie peddled by anti-trans and anti-intersex activists), the lack of individuals with both eggs and sperm proves to them that intersex individuals do not actually exist. They probably think each of those intersex individuals can be actually classified with the binary sex system that the evidence does not support, and which scientists have moved on from. The main motivations to hold onto a view like this are, like for anti-vaxxers and creationists, social and political rather than based in evidence.
recommended follow-up:
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