• mriswith@lemmy.world
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    Sad fact: American police training involves teaching them to shout “drop the weapon” or similar after they shoot someone. Specifically because it sticks in the mind of witnesses and makes it easier to get away with shooting unarmed suspects.

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      Wilson really kicked it off. Nixon and Reagan got the ball momentum. I don’t remember if Bush Sr. had a crime bill. Clinton poured fuel on the fire with his and Biden’s Crime Bill. Then W sealed the deal with the Patriot Act, among some other bits of SCOTUS shenanigans.

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        Very true, Dubya is just the one in my lifetime that has moved the overton window and fascism furthest. Normalized a lot of what Trump is aiming to do.

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    They look so bitchmade when they gotta roll up in a gaggle, making sour stomach face. Hopefully, some of them will join the other coward’s fate.

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        Go fund me won’t allow fundraisers for people that are accused of violent crime but give send go will. Give send go is where the Luigi Mangione legal fund is it’s raised 1 million so far.

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          Ah tx. Knew gfm wouldn’t allow them for convicted criminals but now not even for accused? That’s fucked up

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        I think it’s the same one that white woman got like $800k after calling a child a racial slur. Seems like a sketchy site

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        I dont participate in collective punishments. What groups are you associated with so people can decide if you should be punished for the actions of another?

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          It opted in. It became an accomplice. This is not collective punishment.

          Notice how youre not saying its wrong to kill children with no justification?

          Because you think that’s okay.

          It’s that a white cop died tgat youre upset.

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            Yes, I think kids should be killed for no reason and love all white cops. That’s definately what’s happening here and you are right in every way. Hey let’s start checking where everyone works and see if their coworkers committed a crime so we can kill their accomplices by association.

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      Is it still collective punishment when it’s an army in the field and not pows?

      Or is the important thing that there’s a dude with a gun in an organization aimed at hurting you?

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        When was war declared? I have not had the memo.

        In any case I’m not entirely sure on what you are putting forward here.

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          War was declared about the same time trump took office again.

          He’s putting forth that it’s state vs it’s constituent.

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            I dont like trump either mate, but you’re gonna have to elaborate, cause this is all i got so far.

            Trump elected > war on cops > cop kills son > father kills other cop > justified because of war with cops

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                  They got together to protect the fucker that did. They are accomplices. They are participants.

                  Why dont you care about the killing of the unarmed kid?

                  Why arent you talking about that being punished more lightly than this man killing an armed uniformed combatant? Was the murderer punished at all? Or was this man the only justice his murdered child was ever gonna see?

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              I choose to believe people can’t be as cognitive dissonant as OP saying cops (state) started a war since Trump (federal) took office, it must be a psyops by foreign entities to purposely promote a rebellious zeitgeist.

              On a related note, I wish there is a way I could configure which federated Lemmy instances I could remove from my feed, ml would be gone so fast…

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    His son was shot fleeing from police with a firearm after pointing it at cops and he decides to run into some retired cop directing traffic that was completely uninvolved. What a piece of shit.

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      If you put on the uniform and acceot the support and authority thay comes with it, you are guilty of every crime committed in that uniform.

      Sorry. A pig is a pig is a pig.

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      While it’s unclear from the blurred body camera footage, Theetge said, the officer who fired the shots said in interviews that Hinton pointed the gun at him.

      Oh well I guess so long as the cops claim he waved a gun at them that’s all the proof you need. I mean they’ve never lied about anything like that before right?

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        Certainly that makes it okay for his dad to run over a random retiree because he was angry, right?

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            Controversial, but i don’t think they should murder children who are dping amything, up to shooting at them.

            I don’t want to pay for child murder, under any circumstances. Just not into it.

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            Unfortunately, most of the cases that people latch on to as unfair killings turn out to be completely justified. People yell and scream the day after and then when the body came footage shows that the guy was trying to kill a cop everybody just quietly forgets.

            Also, have you forgotten the saying an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind? Killing somebody because they’re related to somebody that hurt you is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

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              Either killing is okay or it isn’t.

              This mans kid was killed, and there was zero consequence for the killer.

              That means killing is okay.

              I don’t agree, but that’s what this maj was told, over the body of his dead son.

              If you think there’s anything it’s unjust for him to do to anything with a badge after that, you are not w human being, you fo not have a soul, and the world is a worse place for your presence.

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              Second part I agree with you, first part no, you’re entirely in the wrong about that.

              Most of the time it turns out it looks very clearly like the cops just murdered someone for no reason, or escalated a situation to the point where there was going to be a violent confrontation while they had a gun, and that’s in the rare situations where the cops conduct is actually caught on video.

              I agree that the random cop directing traffic probably didn’t deserve to die, but I also disagree with you that that makes the dad a piece of shit. The dad is human, and from watching that video at full speed, it looks an awful lot like that cop just decided to unload his clip into that guy’s son and use the gun as a flimsy pretext.

              Even if he did genuinely fear for his life, that fear might have come about because of the fear mongering training that police departments actively choose to give their officers, which objectively results in worse policing and more civilians deaths. The repeated non investigations into police escalation, police violence, and police abuse, leave people feeling that they have no rational recourse.

              When you systemically hurt people and they don’t feel that justice is served, they will eventually respond with violence. The dad’s reaction may have been unjustified and may even prove unproductive in furthering his goals, but it’s also an inevitable human reaction to the inhuman system of American policing.

              The reality and unpopular opinion, is that both of these deaths are the inevitable result of American handgun culture, where it’s normal to carry around point and click death machines. In most countries, some random kid who may or may not be stealing a car isn’t going to have a gun so it likely won’t escalate to this, the cops chasing the kids aren’t going to be pissing their pants at the prospect of them having a gun, and if a cop does gun him down it’s going to be a lot harder to justify.

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          Ah yes, the oppressor was being polite with someone else so let’s just let him keep doing oppressor shit. /s

          These cops are basically an occupying military that we’ve been socialized into believing are our protectors! As long as they’re wearing the uniform, they’re doing oppressor shit and are therefore valid targets for community defense.

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            The best evidence we have of a police free society was CHAZ and it took a week for warlords to take over.

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              Yeah and now some of the warlords put on blue uniforms and torture the populace. Others wear camo and bomb civilians in foreign lands. Some even hold all resources in the world hostage as they and their minions systematically destroy the planet. Cops don’t prevent the warlords from taking over, they ensure that the warlords who already have taken over don’t have to personally intimidate their subjects into “”“peace”“”.

              CHAZ

              As discussed in this retrospective by Black Rose, this demonstrates the need for community self-defense, not the police! The police are the very last people on Earth who need to be called in situations like these!