Love how they always say “the experts” but never mention what fucking experts they are.
Give me some names instead of just saying “some expert said it”
To be fair, they usually say which experts in the article. Just nobody reads the articles 🙈
It’s a catch-all term from professional to nutcase lol.
The “Experts” are flying all over the world in their private jets, emitting more pollution than I do in a year
I don’t think most people who qualify as experts on this matter are doing that in the slightest… but ok buddy. Let’s group the politicians and scientists together then?
Cuz scientists are immune to moral corruption? Anyone can be bought, man
The whole point of the scientific method is that it’s self-correcting. Corrupting one scientist doesn’t matter because the scientific consensus will show that they’re wrong.
But corrupt one (or a few) politicians and you can get laws changed for your benefit.
How and why? They are usually professors who regret not taking a well-paying job from some company.
Greta Thunberg probably does too, with all the places she speaks and demonstrates at. I’m not going to take issue with it though because her whole thing is advocacy and protest. Just the same, I’m not going to take issue with scientists going to conferences, where they discuss the latest climate science and green technologies and projections, and issue joint statements calling for changes.
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Mr. Gotcha
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These aren’t the scientists telling you that you’ll just get used to the heat.
This isn’t meant to be a gotcha. And the experts are certainly scientists of some kind, or in medicine. The article itself clearly isn’t, and if they’re being genuine it was in very poor taste. The headline should’ve been about ways to cope with the heat, not about how we’re about to adapt to heat. The latter has unsaid connotations.
My point is that you shouldn’t discount the scientific experts based on air travel. The other “experts” can go fuck themselves though
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It’s always some think tank ghoul
I have lived in the desert my whole life. So I guess I’m an expert now. I can tell you that it’s hot as fuck and it can still kill me. No amount of planned “exposure” is going to prevent dehydration or heat exhaustion.
Lack of humidity in the air is a big problem, but op does have a point. As a person living near the equator I’m surprised by how many people are intolerant to temperatures which I find comfortable.
I’ve heard too much humidity is a bigger problem. Keeps your body from being able to cool itself down with sweat, making you likely to overheat. With desert heat you’re probably fine if you have water and shelter from the sun.
Large swaths of the earth will be made inhospitable to humans because of a deadly mix of high humidity and heat. Our society needs to to accommodate this and develop shelters, otherwise our streets will be littered with the bodies of homeless and working poor who were forced to brave the outside.
Mostly.
What really matters for hyperthermia is the “wet bulb” temperature. Basically, the temperature you get when you wrap a thermometer with a wet cloth, simulating the cooling you get from sweat.
120° F with 5% relative humidity is a wet bulb temperature of about 69°.
Yeah actually it’s not even so much about the humans. Humans can deal with changing temperatures. Plants (that we eat) cannot.
Wet bulb temp of 95° F is the start of deadly heat for humans. That’d be about 109° @ 50% humidity, or 130° with dry air. I’d say it’ll be a crap shoot next year, when El Nino is in full swing, whether we see more crop or human death from the heat. But for a glorious moment, we created a lot of value for the shareholders…
THIS IS FINE!
A recent study suggested that the safe upper limit in wet bulb conditions might be closer to 88F. Link to an article discussing the research
Wow. Trouble. And in our road.
Can I ask where you learned that info? I’ve never heard it put that way.
Well a quick search found this…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
Basically the air is warmer and wetter so the human body cannot shed heat.
Never read the wiki before. Thanks. Terrifying
dis is how a sauna works.
Can we commodify this?
As somebody who goes through the extremely hot August summer heat where I live I will tell you that no you don’t get used to the heat if you’re exposed to too much heat you’ll develop heat exhaustion, and if you keep going you’ll get heat stroke which can kill you.
What I’m wondering though is did Washington compost actually say this, or was it just made for the meme? Honestly if they did I would not be surprised in the slightest.
This is true, to a degree. People that live in hot climates slowly become more tolerant to heat in general. This isn’t true in all cases, not is it true past a certain temperature. For instance, once you surpass the wet bulb temperature, it’s not going to matter how tolerant you’ve become to heat, yo’re probably going to end up with heat exhaustion and/or heat stroke.
Actually true. I’d been wearing an orthopedical corset for a good chunk of my life, now I’m really tolerant to heat, like others may be literally dying while I would be alright.
This is the “All Lives Matter” of Climate change.
“experts”
@lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social
this is the source and fun to follow :)
It’s a climate solution because using your A/C less uses less energy
Actually using your AC is one thing, incorrectly disposing of it and the gases therein is another thing all together. A ton of the refrigerating gasses in an AC (or your fridge or freezer) is equivalent of up to 22,800 tons of CO2.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/calculate-the-carbon-dioxide-equivalent-quantity-of-an-f-gas
Interesting! I’ve never thrown one away and always sold it to the next person so I never looked into this
It applies to fridges and freezers too. As long as the gasses are disposed of properly it’s fine though.