The last major holdouts in the protest against Reddit’s API pricing relented, abandoning the so-called “John Oliver rules” which only allowed posts featuring the TV host. It's the official end of the battle. The Reddit protest is over, and Reddit won.
The way I see it, all of us who migrated here won. Enshitification is eventually going to kill reddit, the only question is when. I’ll grab some popcorn when it happens, but for now won’t worry about it and just enjoy my time here on Lemmy.
Yeah, I agree with this suspiciously named man. Whether it happens sooner or later, Reddit’s death is on the horizon, as it will keep making the wrong choices and so steadily lose those communities and content that built it in the first place.
Reddit won’t actually die, it’ll just be a hollow shell of what it once was.
To illustrate my point, Digg still exists.
Have you been to digg recently? It’s a buzzfeed clone. Just because the brand is still around doesn’t mean it’s the same product at all
It’s like if I bought Nike and then killed off all their product lines and only sold high viscosity lithium grease. Yeah Nike would be around, but it would be meaningless beyond that
That’s what Decoy said.
Reddit won’t die, but it will not be what it was.
There’s a big difference between “die” like Facebook where less people are joining and using it, but it still functions as a “keep in touch with your family” site, and “die” like Digg whose community doesn’t exist at all, almost as if it got bought out by another company for the brand name only.
Tell me more about this high viscosity lithium grease
Thicc and spicy. Just do it.
I’m in
i too would like to hear more about this grease. please continue
I think that’s his point.
I think the point flew over your head.
Gordon Gecko checking in
I agree. I don’t think we’re there yet, but next time the they give people another reason to leave the Lemmy/kbin ecosystem will be even more appealing. Simply the app and dev community here is really exploding.
“I like the way ‘namffuH’ thinks!”
I agree with you. Actually, Lemmy woke me up to how much reddit had already been enshitified. I didn’t realize that I had stopped commenting altogether because the subs were so big that either no one saw your stuff, or there was always some one pissed off who felt the need to respond. Lemmy reminds me of reddit the way it was when I joined 12 years ago.
And forget about trying to post articles on any subreddit. Always buried with 0 votes, because some bot network is trying to promote the latest Barbie movie or whatever.
Or subs like gaming having posts with 4 comments and 7,000 up votes “I was recently diagnosed with stage 7 cancer and my dog died, but I created this game as my final contribution to humanity, here’s a trailer.”
2D Hollow Knight rip off video
Comments: “Wow amazing graphics!” “Is it on steam?!” “Looks amazing!” “I neeeeeed this!!”
Any attempt to call the ad out is -200
Or the powermod that hates you for unknown reason and will ban you forever. And the shadow bans. I don’t regret that place.
Not sure if you only posted on the mainsubs or what but Reddit really did hit that “hyper specific topic conversation” for me. Like up to the protests I could make a meme about a topic or reply to a post and have good discussions. When I deleted all my posts I deleted some of the top of all time posts off some subs lol.
Lemmy still hasnt hit that for me, I’m another in a swarm of people saying Lemmy doesn’t fulfill my topic based sub needs. Like I’m currently obsessed with Marvel Snap and loved the subreddit. The lemmy version is dead af. And I try to converse and interact but none of the lemmy filters for posts seem to show the posts reliably to me and I have to remember to go check it. The Spider-Man PS4 sub was another favorite of mine to interact with and I ended up having to make it for Lemmy and it’s got like 80 subscribers and I make a point to comment on every post but it’s still not getting much conversation going 😞
Same problem, I put some community in my favorites so I remember to check them out but we need more people here (but not too much people!)
do you really need a forum to talk about marvel snap? lol. just saying that card game is pretty fun but easy. what is there to talk about? (tongue in cheek)
How dare you? I feel the need to respond. \s
No it doesn’t.
Yea tbh Lemmy is kinda crap and definitely feels like only a short stop on the next major platform after reddit.
Not enough of reddit left the site so Lemmy is still very slow for content in comparison and lacks the more granular content that made reddit so good.
Lemmy is better then Reddit has ever been in my option.
Don’t like a community? Make your own.
Don’t like the admins? Make your own instance.
I blame that on too few users thus far. things are improving
It won’t die. It will just hollow out. Same as Digg. Same as Facebook, Twitter, and every other shitty part of the internet. The power users are what make the internet the magical place it is. Without those people, the sites will still work… but they won’t be as great as they were before their respective turning points. It’s a cycle it seems.
The result is still basically the same IMHO. It’s like saying “it won’t die, it will just turn into a zombie” … sure it’ll still move, but it’s dead inside and rotting on the outside either way, devoid of the life and soul it once had.
It might not even kill it. Facebook is still kicking, after all, for all its enshittification. It’s just… idk, some of us were freed to move on to a more satisfying experience. That’s all. Life continues here, life continues there
Facebook is a shell of what it was, if Google Trends is to be believed. It dwarfed everything else in 2012 and has been on a steady decline ever since, and is now starting to play with the others.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Facebook,Twitter,Reddit,Instagram,Snapchat&hl=en-US
Maybe Facebook got so big and their search is so good that people just stopped using Google search for it, but I have a hard time believing that can be responsible for a drop of this magnitude.
I guess “kill” would need to be defined as well. Digg v4 killed Digg and drove everyone to Reddit. Digg is still around, but it’s just a news site, it’s not user driven, which was the whole point of Digg. So while it may not technically be dead, the Digg we knew died with the release of v4.
Even if Reddit doesn’t die, I think having it shrink, with other options is health for the web. Having a handful of mega sites is not what the internet was designed for and I think it makes it vulnerable.
Facebook (the page) is dead in the sense that its parent company changed their name to not be the same as their (once powerhouse) product. Facebook trademark is so unbelievably cursed due to what it became that they’re pretending that it does not exist.
Meta is focusing on Instagram for now. They could’ve launched Threads within Facebook (I think it was at some point) but they choose not to. Instagram is how they reach out to the people.
This means that Facebook was enshittified successfully. It does not serve any purpose now.
I don’t think Reddit has the same choice as they don’t really have means to pivot to something else. It will just cease to be… Or not.
I understand why the didn’t do threads in Facebook incase they need to shut it down. Kinda like how they have Messenger then purchased WhatsApp but never integrated it if they want to shut one down.
I would say you’re probably right. Remember this old gem?
Honestly if all the buttmunches stay there and all the cool people come here, I think that’s the ideal scenario.
facebook’s on the decline, meta’s betting on instagram since that’s what the kids use. facebook is for boomers to looking at family vacation photos and nazi radicalising and is a legacy service at this point.
do you know what a ‘boomer’ is? it’s slang for ‘baby boomer’ and it’s a specific age range of people born at specific times. plenty of people younger than that are on FB every day. just saying, if you didn’t know what ‘boomer’ was, it doesn’t just mean ‘old person’.
Yeah, I feel like I hit the jackpot by finding out about the fediverse/non-corporate social media.
There won’t be a day when reddit goes away, it will be a gradual decline, digg still exist.
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Right? The protest was just the lighter. Now we watch as the fuse burns. Fuck off Gizmodo, Reddit didn’t win shit yet
Honestly I’m happy with a slow death than a big freaking one. A humongous explosion is not always a good thing lol.
I can’t tell if it’s just cognitive bias on my part but I feel like the content and discussion has gotten even worse on Reddit since the protests.
Meanwhile here, I find most engagements thoughtful and written because people want to engage. Sure, a few assholes post stupid shit or try to be mean, but most are just trying to participate in good faith.
Enshittification will one day kill Lemmy. Somehow.
And we’ll be elsewhere.
Lemmy is open-source software. If the project root starts doing something stupid or gets abandoned, it can just be forked by someone else and it will live on.
That‘s right. Without the protests, i probably would nit have been aware of the fediverse existence
I doubt it. Only few people left and they’ll just get a bunch of new people in to replace the lost ones. It’s just a little dent in their statistics.
Shit birds Ran.
Idk if it will ever go away. Digg is still around.
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Good thing you reality deniers have no reason to be here then. Byyyeeee!
Geez, you trolls are so pathetic.