Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.
He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.
That is nonsense, cite your sources
Here are my sources, Sam Seder dismantling Ethan Klein while Hasan gives context to all the lazy slander y’all are leveling at him.
https://youtu.be/nrwtpG-jidU
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Ethan Klein, notorious ignoramus
“America deserved 9/11”
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15uuk6hXOmFWT96QzdoCtPZLylOPjHoVa/view
His own words, from his own stream. Your argument is invalid
We literally murdered 100s of thousands prior to 9/11 and then we proceeded to murder millions of innocents after. We still deserve it.
I wouldn’t say deserve, but I’m not surprised it happened.
Here is a simple question, if Hasan did say the U.S. “deserved” 9/11 like the fear mongers in this thread are trying to twist his words into and he meant it the way y’all claim he did, wouldn’t he still be calling for more terrorism against the U.S.?
If Hasan isn’t actively calling for terrorism… what made him stop? Does he think the score was settled and it is back to U.S.-50 points vs Radical Islam -50 points on the scoreboard?
No, Hasan is clearly making a point about how blowback from brutal imperial practices becomes nearly inveitable after a certain point, the use of “deserve” he is to denote how in a system where people act as political representatives of groups and derive power from publicly representing them, the more one group commits violence against another group the more likely the group of victims are to retaliate with force.
To make the logical jump that this must mean that Hasan wants more 9/11s to happen to the U.S. where random U.S. citizens are indiscriminately killed as a symbol for something they do not control is disengenous to the extreme, and I have said elsewhere in this thread, a step in an extremely dangerous direction for the health and free speech of our society.
If you actively do something to someone, and have the prior knowledge to know what their response will be, you deserve that obvious response. If you antagonize another perpetually, you deserve their strike back. It’s not hard to follow, we literally teach this to toddlers. Violence and hate begets violence and hate, and people can only take so much before snapping.
The only people who don’t get it are maladjusted humans who were sheltered from consequences in the past.
I don’t think that we should teach toddlers, or anyone, really, that anyone ever deserves violence.
If you go around punching people for kicks, you deserve to be punched back. Especially when you refuse to listen to others who tell you that you shouldn’t punch.
Sometimes, people deserve what they directly cause. They reap what they sew. It’s the nature of the world.
Are you willfully ignorant in order to be argumentative?
We teach toddlers to have manners and act politely and treat others with respect.
The reason we have all those things is to prevent an emotional lash out from those others. We do it because we don’t know what kind of control they might have at that moment and we do our best to maintain calm. We keep the peace.
THAT is the point. Go back and read it again.
That and we had intel that such an attack was imminent and the Bush administration was okay with it bc they wanted to kill millions more.
So the ~3000 people who were killed “deserved it”? What did they do?
ETA Jesus fucking Christ, I did not expect that “mass murder is bad” would be an unpopular opinion. Y’all are genuinely disgusting and hopefully on a watchlist of some sort.
They worked under the US, and reaped the benefits of our imperialist actions. obviously no one deserves to be murdered, but we are all culpable for the violence our nation commits, because we’re the ones keeping it running. The US deserved retaliation for what it partook in during the cold war, and that retaliation was never going to only include guilty parties.
EDIT: let me put it in another perspective: if you went to a foreign nation which operated on slavery, started working there, enjoyed the goods and services provided to you by the enslaved, and socialized with the enslavers, why would you ever expect sympathy from the enslaved? You chose who to help, who to do business with, and you chose the enslavers. It really doesn’t matter if you talked about slavery being fucked up behind closed doors, you enjoyed the value ripped from the enslaved. You’re now just as culpable as the enslavers.
Edit 2: made some edits communicating some further nuance regarding the subject. 9/11 was a tragedy, but it is largely overshadowed by the sheer scale of death our conflict with the Middle-East has had.
Wow. Just… wow. That’s an extremely callous attitude.
So is our foreign policy. We live in a fucked up world. US citizens don’t deserve more respect than Middle-Eastern peoples, and far more Middle-Easterners have died unjustly prior to and after 9/11 than Americans did in 9/11. You either pretend like middle-eastern lives are without worth, become overwhelmed from the sheer amount of death, or you grow callous.
Jesus fuck, the political extremists have escaped the tankie containment instances
I’m not a tankie, so I wouldn’t be on a tankie instance. Other radical views exist outside Maoism and Marxist-Leninism.
I’m not saying those 3000 people deserved to die. It is sad that they died. The US as a whole had it coming, and it would have been better if only the government or combatants were targeted. But to act like the US citizens who died on 9/11 were completely innocent bystanders is also unrealistic. It’s sad that settler families were slaughtered by native Americans, but I’m not going to act like it was completely evil that they were targeted, especially after we were slaughtering tribes en masse with our military.
I’m an anarchist on the same instance as you are, I agree with the idea that US’s geopolitical games had to have a blowback at some point.
Should the 3000+ died? Probably not. Would someone at some point have died due to the blowback at some point? Most likely. Can’t say when or where, or how many.
But people were (understandably) seething with hatred for what America did to their nations and cultures. Removing elected leaders for autocratic dictators, assassinating people to help aid in anti-communist efforts, and so on. America was not innocent in the region pre-9/11.
The people in the towers probably had nothing to do even tangentially related to the reasons for 9/11 to be done in the eyes of the Al Queda, beyond “they are in the buildings tied to American capitalism, valid target in our eyes.”
Ye the Palestinians should just die already and let the last of their land be stolen by Jizzrael and the Ussa
Hasan said that America deserved it, not that the 3,000 people who died in 9/11 deserved it.
Reading comprehension. Work on it.
Hi, I was in New York for 9/11. I was a young teen and I remember the whole day very clearly. Two adults who were positive influences in my life died when those towers collapsed.
As a country, we did deserve it. We had it coming. It’s still tragic, but it was a tragedy of our own making.
And people like you who abuse the truth of that tragedy to try and invalidate or silence the people who devote their lives to trying to get this country fixed, are scum.
I agree (except for the “scum” part) but would not complain if border security singled me out like they did him.
He wasn’t beaten up or thrown into prison.
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Well the only new point I made by posting that reply is that someone who abuses 9/11 to silence others is scum, so it doesn’t seem like you actually agree with me at all. It seems like you’re just piggybacking on my personal experience and conviction to smuggle in the laughable notion that you’d happily submit to needless hours of federal interrogation about your personal political views as some kind of virtue, in a limp-wristed attempt to normalize fascistic creep.
You look just as transparent to me at the first guy I replied to.
We did, tho.
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The 5 dancing Isralies would agree america deserved 9/11.
“America Deserved 9/11”
-Hassan Piker
Add also a solid bunch of antisemitism to that. Dude, is a god damn lunatic.
Let’s phrase this a different way. “America reaped what it sowed,” or “America made its bed and is now lying in it.” This is a pretty solid “yup” from me. We armed, trained, and funded the leaders of the group that carried out the attack, among many other things
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Hey now, I’ve met some pretty goddam intelligent rocks in my time.
Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician’s web page?
He opposes terrorism. Which is why he opposes Israel. Which is what gets him in trouble.
He may also have said some things in support of terrorism by Hamas, which would be fucked up in my opinion. I don’t know and I have no plans to take this web page seriously about it. He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?
Dude, you have a PDF there with ALL THE RELEVANT CITATIONS AND CLIPS from his streams in second paragraph. This is the primary source. You can’t bring anything better to the table.
Also, you don’t have to watch Hasan Piker for long to see that this characterization of him is totally absurd, I don’t know whether it is more embarassing that people actually believe Hasan Piker is like this or that they are willing to lie so boldfacedly about it.
Hasan doesn’t advocate for violence like this, I am sure he has said some spicey shit but trying to frame his as a terrorist is a dangerous road to walk and these people are doing it gleefully.
Promoting terrorism isn’t protected by free speech laws. Never was, never will be
Promoting terrorism by saying Israel “has every right to defend themselves,” is 100% protected. Both by the current application of the law, and by its proper intent. I’m actually not very concerned with the current application of the law to pro-Palestinian advocacy (“Palestine has every right to defend themselves”) because the current application is a bunch of tyrannical bullshit, and I hope we are able to restore it to something sort of adjacent to good sense and the intent of the framers soon.
You’re advocating for it being legal to advocate for terrorism, or in fact to commit it, but illegal to make terrorists uncomfortable by making edgelord statements, if the terrorists or their friends happen to be in power. That is a profoundly fucked up point of view. Pretty much every terroristic regime has usually labelled any resistance to them as “terrorism” as one of the key steps in making it illegal to resist their terrorism.
If you’re having trouble grasping what I am saying, I am saying that Israel’s mass slaughter of civilians including torture, starvation, bombing of hospitals, deliberately shooting children, basically any type of war crime you could think of, is terrorism. So far they have committed roughly 50 September 11ths in Gaza, at least, and they have plans to do many many more.
Hamas does commit terrorism also, yes, although far less than Israel. But the main thing I am saying is that supporting terrorism is unequivocally legal, and very popular, in the United States, as long as the terrorism is being done by our friends.
How did we get here? First some dude claims that I’m lying and that I have no sources, and then when I provide undeniable evidence, discussion swiftly switches from defending Hasan to defending Hamas. Are you really defending them because you think their attacks on civilians are justified, or you just like Hasan and don’t want his image to be stained?
Yeah, I sure was defending Hamas. Boy howdy. That sure is exactly what I said.
I suspect you are intentionally just trying to stir shit by not reading the messages you’re getting and pretending they say something else. If that is not the case, I would really encourage you to go back, carefully read what I wrote, and then after tell me back what you learned about what my attitude is towards Hamas, because you have severely misunderstood.
Sorry to say, but you are a special kind of stupid. One day the terrorist state known as Israel will collapse and we will celebrate.
I will not excuse the abhorrent atrocities the IDF did. Not today, not ever.
Ps. From long Ethan viewer: he is an unstable person and his argument are in bad faith.
Well, it looks like we got here because you are overtly biased and ain’t nobody here to spend hours explaining the context of every clip you linked because other people have watched DAYS of his content and they know you are just parroting bad faith sillyness.
Yeah but he doesnt know and doesnt care.
Ironically, conflating antisemitism with antizionism is antisemitic.
The state of Israel is the largest scapegoating of Judaism in history.
You zionits been using antisemitism claim till it lost all it’s meaning
This has to be troll
I don’t think so.
Many people have been calling anything speaking against Israel and its actions (genocide) in Palestine antisemitic, when it’s not saying anything about Jewish people or Judaism. Criticism against the existence of or actions of Israel is, more accurately, anti-Zionism, which isn’t racism and doesn’t deserve any special protection, just like criticism of American hegemony isn’t racism.
Don’t take this the wrong way, I hate terrorism and nothing justifies it but the American government didn’t care about American or non white people dying while forming an alliance with Pakistan to train terrorists in Afghanistan. They knew full well how dangerous these people were. What the American government basically did was hit a hornet’s nest violently in hopes that they will attack your neighbour, and act surprised when some of them came to bite your own face. If a person did that, they he would be a fool. If the American government does that, it’s ‘a mistake’ at best.