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Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn’t?
Not to mention that he’ll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there’s a fair chance he’ll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can’t even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
I wish Joe well. Terrible thing to have to deal with.
Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
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This is sad. Taking into account of how he was treated by the DNC and how 2024 went down, this is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.
Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)
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If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.
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With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.
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Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.
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Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.
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After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.
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Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.
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If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.
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As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.
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Human being has deadly cancer. Comments section: politics politics politics. I hope he dies in pain. Should have done more.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there’s a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.
We can acknowledge Joe Biden’s crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.
We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to ‘communism vs capitalism’ or ‘democracy vs fascism’ arguments.
I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.
What are these comments? You people are vile.
Either post on reddit and get a mix of Nazis and Russian bots.
Or post on Lemmy and get dumb fucks that idolize Russia or China and don’t even understand what communism is they just know it’s “cool” to be against capitalism.
Also never vote, but simultaneously blame the Democrats for everything.
Tbf it is pretty cool to be against capitalism.
Even cooler to do it properly though rather than trying to proxy it by loving China or Russia
Yeah what’s up with that? We now cool with China? What?
Don’t buy Tesla, but buy slave made cars from BYD! WHO LITERALLY RUNS SLAVE CAMPS OUTSIDE OF CHINA.
What. The. Fuck. Internet.
I’ve seen people saying they don’t want to buy a Quest VR headset because Facebook supported the Uyghur genocide (reasonable) and then name PICO as an alternative despite it being owned by ByteDance which is tied to the Chinese government.
Yeah, people don’t think. They just repeat the popular thing.
Please cite a source. As far as I’ve heard, despite several investigations by Congress, there has never been any evidence that Byte dance has any ties to the Chinese government. The only premise they could come up with the try to separate TikTok was that they are a Chinese company and subject to the totalitarian rule of China’s government.
The bots and won. That’s the reality. So much infighting and hatred.
I doubt one normal person is saying both those things.
The Joe Biden legacy is literal genocide. What kind of insane person do you have to be to not be happy about this? This is objectively awesome.
The only vile thing about this article is Joe Biden
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
ass related illness
Now there’s a phrasing…
I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.
I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.
Can you cite the source for that? Because that claim simply could not have been made without sounding like a goddamn moron.
It’s hard to not sound like a moron when you’re an absolute moron
lol 5% body fat. fucking hilarious.
The zero key was broken from putting the payoff checks into Excel
Even if it was true, too little body fat comes with its own bag of health issues. (Metabolism, cardiovascular, vitamin uptake, brain function…)
Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.
It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.
yes, but for most of those men it’s a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.
I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.
It’s that pesky top-of-the-line health care he has access to.
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
“Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy.”
My MAGA father-in-law also has prostate cancer. I bet dollar to donut he’s going to be positively giddy hearing this news.
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
If he allowed terrorists to build command centres in those hospitals, and dig tunnels underneath, then perhaps they would have been bombed to the ground…
As a reminder, the claim that Hamas built a command center under Shifa Hospital comes solely from the IDF. They have rejected offers to have an international delegation of journalists freely roam the area to verify the claim.
That would have been a bummer, wouldn’t it? Joe Biden should have been ashamed of himself if he had allowed such a thing to happen under his leadership. Thank God he didn’t.
What planet are you on?
Oh weird, so it wasn’t a constant stream of weapons provided with stamped approval by the admin? It wasn’t that the only time they threatened to stop it was only a very specific type of heavy bomb, not any other munitions? It wasn’t the Biden admin who initially rejected the terms ceasefire until deep into the conflict? It wasn’t the Biden admins ceasefire plans that were accepted and abandoned by Trump, proving that if they had provided full throated support of those plans it could have very reasonably happened a year sooner?
Best thing you can say about this fuck was that he was the white guy they used to get Obama elected, cause they figured no one would vote for him unless he had a token cracker.
Man, the criticisms are valid, and I’ll even add to them because his pride in not stepping down sooner doomed what shreds of american democracy were left. That said, the best and largest climate bill ever passed by the US govt happened under him. Unions were bolstered and grew under him (not the train workers tho lol) and if nothing else, his victory let me not think about the fat orange cow for ten minutes. In so many ways, I pity and even kinda miss that sad sleepy bastard-- however much he floundered in almost every way. As a bonus his dogs hated government agents as much as I do, and got to bite them with impunity.
Totally fair, despite the vitriol and glibness of my response. But man, as you mentioned the railroad was a big fuck up. Speaking of shitty situations for Palestinians… East Palestine Ohio happened like 2 months after he made the rail workers go back to work, and it was one of the exact problems they were striking for. That’s directly on his hands.
Are we even sure he actually knew he was doing that? I wonder if he even knows he has cancer.
Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.
He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.
I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.
It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so…
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
That’s no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.
If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.
Even while dying he’s stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.
He will be missed.
Yeah it seems fundraising is more important to the DNC than improving the country. But then again the people who pay big money to politics aren’t happy with a better country. That would mean less wealth for them and more dignity fir everyone else.
Well the DNC platform was about fucking over anybody with more a than a million dollars in stocks and they still managed to out finance the fascist party (as long as you don’t count buying out social media platforms and newspapers) so your comment seems really out of touch.
And yet none of that has ever happened regardless of how well the Dems do at the ballot box.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don’t want power. It’s all automatic to them at this point. They don’t know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.
He’s 82, he’s not going to “make it” regardless
if you’re going with “regardless”, might as well add that none of us will "make it’. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.
I don’t believe you. /s
We don’t know that. It’s statistically likely, but it’s possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.
We’ve also been talking about curing it for years and it hasn’t happened, so maybe live your life like you’re dying and be pleasantly surprised if we cure it.
Be kind, please.
They were being kind.
So kind. I kindly ask him to die and rest in piss.
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No
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Tbf, Trump’s health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don’t know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
When they sending time travellers, they aren’t sending their best. 🤦♂️
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
No harm done
Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
