“Yes don’t vote at all to get rid of fascism”

  • Losingfaithinmyself@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    You have no clue why I’m mad at the people who invited in the fascists.

    Really.

    Again: I voted for Kamala. I just recognize that the people who didn’t are not the enemy. Stop attacking other normal people instead of the ones who are actively trying to divide us over stupid shit (like this).

    Yep, and a large number of people decided to just hand over all levers of power over to those people! At least it wasn’t the DEMS who got the levers of power! That would have been the REAL atrocity.

    We don’t owe anybody our votes. Not you, not Kamala, not Trump. The reason Trump keeps winning is because he makes people think he’s for them. The democrats are actively ignoring the voices of their base and saying that they’re going to do nothing for us, but hey, at least they’re not trump! If you want any actual recognition on why people are not voting maybe it’s because our votes are not mattering when we cast them. We vote lesser evil and we still get evil. That is not something to vote for. That’s when you just pack your bags and leave the fucking country if you’re able to do so. And if you’re not able to do so (like me) you’re getting fucked over no matter what you do, and dumb shits will berate you for not suffering in silence.

    You’re putting the blame for a fucked population on an amoral self-centered party apparatus. The amoral self-centered party apparatus would all be hanged in a just society, don’t get me wrong - but they’re not the core of the fucking problem. The core of the fucking problem is the widespread acceptance of dogshit right-wing ideology in the population - yes, including the working class - and pretending that if only we had a DIFFERENT party apparatus, or different people in charge of it, would change that fundamentally FUCKED issue is delusional.

    Holy fucking shit, you really are dumber than a sack of bricks. The core of the problem is the billionaires. You know, the ones who have been systematically demonizing left-wing ideologies since FDR dropped dead? You know, the ones that have been systematically funding and promoting right-wing ideologies because they were trying to get to this point? Nothing will get fixed while billionaires have this level of control over our government. If you’re not voting for an anti-corruption or anti-billionaire candidate, if you’re not organizing in your communities, and if you’re content with actually voting for the lesser evil every few years instead of expecting better (or preferably DEMANDING better) of your elected officials, YOU are fucking delusional. Maybe do like the fucking lefties and go out and try to show people a better way and convince them to back anti-corruption, anti-corporate candidates at all levels of government instead of coming online to shit on the people who are actively trying to fix the problems in the government.

    Jesus fucking Christ. “The GOP loves the will of the people” is not a new one, but it always astounds me how many “left-wing” commenters eagerly swallow that fascist shit in their fervor to make sure everyone knows they think the SHITLIBS are the WORST OPTION POSSIBLE.

    Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said the GOP loves the will of the people. I said they listened to it, which is far more than the dems have done recently.

    Cool, so now fascists have, what, over a supermajority in this country? After all, scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. How many socialists do you think there are in the US? Bernie fucking Sanders is considered a radical here. Not just by “The Establishment™”, by actual voters on the fucking ground.

    Yeah, and what have you done to actually try and help matters? Get out of the basement you’re dwelling in, go talk to people, and give them the education to get us out of this system and inspire the future you’re so certain can never happen. What’s the old saying ‘Be the change you wish to see in the world’? Except, you won’t, because you don’t actually want that. You don’t want a better society for anyone. You come in here bitching about leftists claiming “think of the minorities” and when a minority comes and calls you out for using people like me as a pawn in your ideological LARPing you turn on the minority (who voted for your dogs hit candidate may I remind you) while doing absolutely nothing to get us out of this batshit reality. Liberals are so content to sit around while it’s other people’s children dying to bombs or starvation that they’ll sit around with a thumb up their ass ‘dunking’ on leftists who are asking for better. Some of y’all ain’t never known suffering and it shows.

    “Hey, let’s fight the literal fucking fascists!”

    “Fuck off, shitlib! I’d rather see the fascists win than fight with you!”

    Excuse me, but how many times in this thread have I asked you to stop attacking your fellow human beings and focus on the real enemy here? Billionaires. The 1% causes the rise of fascism every time, because fascism is the end result of unchecked capitalism. Fight the ones who put us in this situation or keep arguing on the internet while the world burns. The choice is entirely yours.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      Again: I voted for Kamala. I just recognize that the people who didn’t are not the enemy. Stop attacking other normal people instead of the ones who are actively trying to divide us over stupid shit (like this).

      Stupid shit like letting fascists win. As you call liberals fascists in one breath and demand unity and not attacking one’s fellow citizens in the next.

      Fucking rich.

      Sorry that you think harm reduction is a fashion statement that you were happy to put on, instead of a moral obligation.

      We don’t owe anybody our votes.

      We owe it to our fellow man to use our votes responsibly, which would seem to be a foreign concept to many.

      The reason Trump keeps winning is because he makes people think he’s for them.

      Oh, is that why he won 1% more of the vote, a typical amount by which Republicans win by in presidential elections?

      Golly gee, I sure am glad that we made sure every leftist knew that harm reduction was morally optional, though! Obviously, with such a large margin of victory, encouraging the very small amount of non-voters wouldn’t have made a difference anyway!

      Holy fucking shit, you really are dumber than a sack of bricks. The core of the problem is the billionaires. You know, the ones who have been systematically demonizing left-wing ideologies since FDR dropped dead? You know, the ones that have been systematically funding and promoting right-wing ideologies because they were trying to get to this point? Nothing will get fixed while billionaires have this level of control over our government.

      Luckily, we elected the MOST pro-billionaire candidate we could in the last election. Good thing we didn’t reward the SHITLIBS, right comrade? It would have been awful if leftists thought harm reduction was mandatory and not a fashion statement, like you think it is!

      If you’re not voting for an anti-corruption or anti-billionaire candidate, if you’re not organizing in your communities, and if you’re content with actually voting for the lesser evil every few years instead of expecting better (or preferably DEMANDING better) of your elected officials, YOU are fucking delusional.

      You do realize that all of that is not fucking mutually exclusive with biting the bullet when the general election comes around and the opposition are literal fucking fascists, right?

      Maybe do like the fucking lefties and go out and try to show people a better way and convince them to back anti-corruption, anti-corporate candidates at all levels of government instead of coming online to shit on the people who are actively trying to fix the problems in the government.

      These same ‘fucking lefties’ who are sabotaging less corrupt less corporate candidates at every opportunity?

      What better way have these ‘fucking lefties’ shown, by the way? What’s their track record for success in this country?

      Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said the GOP loves the will of the people. I said they listened to it, which is far more than the dems have done recently.

      “I didn’t say LOVE!”

      Jesus Christ.

      Yeah, and what have you done to actually try and help matters? Get out of the basement you’re dwelling in, go talk to people, and give them the education to get us out of this system and inspire the future you’re so certain can never happen.

      Typical Very Serious Leftist online, who’s certain that no one who disagrees with them has ever done anything other than disagree with the True Faith™.

      What’s the old saying ‘Be the change you wish to see in the world’? Except, you won’t, because you don’t actually want that. You don’t want a better society for anyone. You come in here bitching about leftists claiming “think of the minorities” and when a minority comes and calls you out for using people like me as a pawn in your ideological LARPing you turn on the minority (who voted for your dogs hit candidate may I remind you) while doing absolutely nothing to get us out of this batshit reality.

      I’m fucking mixed-race and disabled, I’m in the same fucking boat, dipshit. I want a better society, which is exactly why I think that “It’s okay to oppose the anti-fascist coalition if you feel really strongly that the anti-fascist is bad 😊” is fascist-supporting dogshit which people like you love to praise and peddle.

      Liberals are so content to sit around while it’s other people’s children dying to bombs or starvation that they’ll sit around with a thumb up their ass ‘dunking’ on leftists who are asking for better. Some of y’all ain’t never known suffering and it shows.

      lmao

      You’re currently praising people who voted for millions in Palestine to die, as well as millions across the world with USAID being cut, an unknown amount in Ukraine and the US in addition.

      You’re praising people who sit around with a thumb up their ass doing nothing, preferring their own ego to taking an hour of a single day of their life to prevent a fascist from coming into power, who had explicitly stated unlimited support for genocide.

      And then you wonder why people look at you and all the people you asspat like fascists.

      Excuse me, but how many times in this thread have I asked you to stop attacking your fellow human beings and focus on the real enemy here?

      About as many times as you’ve asserted that liberals are fascists too.