“Yes don’t vote at all to get rid of fascism”

    • ILoveUnions@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      Not especially. Many groups of people, conservatives and leftists and “centrists” alike, love to suggest the parties are equal. I’ve heard it in real life. I’ve heard it online. All over reddit when I was still on it and lemmy even now.

      Though I wouldn’t especially attribute the logic to tankies, so in that way, perhaps

      • Iceman@lemmy.world
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        9 hours ago

        Ofc it’s a straw man! It’s at least so vague and free from annotation that the only way it works at all is for the reader to apply there own.

      • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        12 hours ago

        Prominent leftists I know argue that democrats dont deliver meaningful change but they still encourage people to vote. they say dems go harder against progressives than they do against republicans. And I agree with them.

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          11 hours ago

          Not voting does nothing. It doesn’t deliver meaningful change. It doesn’t help. Doesn’t fix.

          There’s a lot to lose by not voting. It’s a privilege to vote and run for office, and as a Republic, it’s people’s civic duty to use it.

          If you don’t like it, running for election yourself, organizing, unionizing, those are the strongest methods to realistically to fight back. Revolution rarely comes as long as people are moderately comfortable — and that’s the only other option.

          For presidential, there’s only 2 options. But if you go down to local level, third parties can be viable.

          Only just over 60% of democracies go back to democracy after being authoritarian, and I have never been one to play with gambling the odds