Liberalism is when you believe in voting against fascism to lessen the burdens on engaging in actual leftist action, I guess.

Extremely dire turbolib statement here, RIP

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    “Harm reduction is reactionary” and “If you believe in harm reduction, you don’t understand what anarchism is”.

    Classic.

    At least now you’ve added an actual rule, instead of just banning people for hurting your feelings by [checks notes] arguing that inaction against fascism isn’t morally acceptable.

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      Imagine believing that voting for the people who brought us fascism (aka fascists) is “harm reduction”.

      Peak lib delusions.

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        Of course, the lives of marginalized groups don’t matter to ‘anarchist’ LARPers. Harm reduction is unacceptable because it doesn’t lead to a good society in and of itself. Who cares if a few million minorities more or less suffer and die?

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          What’s with “‘anarchist’ LARPers”, do you seriously believe that not voting for fascists is something anarchists can’t do? Everyone else said it before, it’s completely redundant for me to say it again, but your logic has absolutely zero ground.

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            What’s with “‘anarchist’ LARPers”, do you seriously believe that not voting for fascists is something anarchists can’t do?

            Saying that “harm reduction”, itself originating in anarchist thought, is entirely contrary to anarchists, seems a rather odd thing for a ‘serious’ anarchist to assert.

            But hey, don’t let me interrupt the LARP. There are minorities to kill, after all.

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              And promoting “harm reduction” isn’t promoting cutting corners, and not standing up against fascism, as that isn’t anarchist at all. That’s actually something a turbolib would say.

              And the fact you like to say that being against these things is killing minorities is the cherry on top for me. Like yes, standing against Zionist liberals who advocate for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people is something the evil anarchist LARPers who want to kill minorities do.

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                And promoting “harm reduction” isn’t promoting cutting corners, and not standing up against fascism, as that isn’t anarchist at all. That’s actually something a turbolib would say.

                Christ.

                Thanks for demonstrating the exact kind of idiocy I was protesting against, wherein harm reduction is suddenly not-anarchist despite being deeply rooted in and originating in anarchist thought and practice, both present and historically. Enjoy your LARP.

                And the fact you like to say that being against these things is killing minorities is the cherry on top for me. Like yes, standing against Zionist liberals who advocate for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people is something the evil anarchist LARPers who want to kill minorities do.

                Good job standing up against the Zionists by making sure the strongest Zionist supporter in the race got into power. I’m sure you’ve saved countless Palestinians with your saintly sacrifice of the lives of literal millions of impoverished folk around the world, Palestinians under Israeli occupation, LGBT Americans, and god knows how many other disadvantaged groups in this country.

                Give yourself a round of applause.

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                  Oh, if you’re taking the “not voting for the heccin wholesome liberals is Zionist and pro Donald Trump” take then I don’t think you can actually engage in any fair discussion with me on the topic.

                  Have fun with others. Sleep well.

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                    Oh, if you’re taking the “not voting for the heccin wholesome liberals is Zionist and pro Donald Trump” take then I don’t think you can actually engage in any fair discussion with me on the topic.

                    Sorry for believing that fewer dead Palestinians would be preferable.

                    Have fun with your maximized support of genocide, that way you can keep your precious ballot clean. I guess it scores you points for the LARPers afterlife, or something.