Liberalism is when you believe in voting against fascism to lessen the burdens on engaging in actual leftist action, I guess.
Extremely dire turbolib statement here, RIP
Liberalism is when you believe in voting against fascism to lessen the burdens on engaging in actual leftist action, I guess.
Extremely dire turbolib statement here, RIP
PTB
Despite this being one of the things i disagree with Pug on, voting for Kamala Harris was objectively the correct choice last election.
The way we escape the Duopoly is to abandon it, but there were no viable 3rd party choices.
Also none of what I said so far can justify the moderation decisions made. Censoring this kind of speech is a bad look for the anarcho-communist community.
What is dangerous about Pug’s behavior here is even though myself and others have repeatedly provided examples for how prominent leftists and leftists in general advocated voting for Kamala Harris, if not enthusiastically to others every single one I know explained in clear terms why even though they didn’t really like Kamala and were against the Palestinian Genocide Kamala refused to acknowledge or do anything about differently than Biden (at least she wouldn’t give any serious indication of it in her campaign… like at all… zero percent)… and yet Pug Jesus spitfires memes and comments that keep trying to portray leftism as this death cult obsessed with intellectual purity.
No, Pug is in denial about the cruelty of their own assumptions that they didn’t realize until it was too late, and I am tired of them bringing the rest of us down for it and throwing mud on leftism in general in the US.
Either the protest vote was powerless and doomed to fail in the beginning or it was the dues ex machina that thwarted the wonders of neoliberalism that were just about to be bestowed upon us until we sinned… it is an emotionally compelling story and that is why it is scary… because it isn’t supported by the evidence, at all.
I think the thing a lot of people are missing is that abandoning the duopoly, or any other major political reform, is NOT a “just vote in this one election bro I swear” deal. These things take time. Sometimes a lot of time. And until that time where it happens, you need to spend each election thinking “how is this going to affect progress towards our goal”. And allowing trump to win did nothing but push us closer to having a republican monopoly. See all those news articles of local government republicans in power suddenly starting to host town hall meetings that are republican only.
I don’t like him or want him in charge, but if Trump wasn’t elected in 2024 then he would have been in 2028.
The upside is trump getting elected probably spurs more apathetic people to get involved than continuing to slowly boil the frog.
Same thing happened after 2016, the Republicans got fucked in the midterms.
Its hard to not sound accelerationist, but yes. If the sword of damocles isnt going away, and things will jot improve in the meantime; go for it.
He might be dead due to health problems by then though.
Im not willing to bet that will stop him winning elections.
Delacruz was electable, if we voted for her.
I’m gonna be honest this is my first time hearing that name
her full name was claudia de la cruz she was was a candidate of the PSL and got 160k votes
Third party presidential candidate from… I firget which party, the kinda-socialistish one i think. I heard someone responding to a lib saying we should have fallen in line behind their ghoul with turning the argument around, and stole the fuck out of it. Its a great reminder that ‘unity’ does not mean ‘do whatever the libs want at all times’.
Oh yeah deltarune has been great, just dropped this week!