• duderium [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Oh my god dude. I asked your opinion about these issues, and guessed about your beliefs. You still haven’t answered my numerous questions because you have no answers—this is why you are so angry and so defensive—you are still trapped inside the invisible prison of liberal ideology. You (almost certainly) believe that Russia should be exterminated—sorry, I mean, their government should be overthrown and replaced with amerikkka-backed definitely-not-Nazis, who will certainly have the best interests of the Russian people at heart. This probably means you feel the same way about various underclasses around the world, including homeless gay people, including homeless trans people, including all the LGBTQ+ people exterminated in amerikkka’s recent imperialist wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc. Oh wait, I forgot, you said you were against america’s actions abroad—although you trust america in Ukraine and you trust the american media that lied about Iraq. If I’m mistaken, please enlighten me!

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        More baseless accusations, I’ll laugh about it next week when I go party with my Russian friends. They’ll be extremely joyed to hear I have secretly hated them the past decade.

        Refusing to answer the question yet again. What should happen to Russia? Answer the question without sounding like a Nazi. You can’t!

        Dude you told me I’m a Roma hater, what a fucking guess, I literally donate to them, I interact with them especially whenever I travel through Central & Eastern Europe. My boyfriend’s grandma even housed them, ffs. Get the fuck out of here with your small-minded hatred hidden behind “I’m just guessing”.

        “I throw some money their way (at tax-deductible do-nothing nonprofits) sometimes, my many numerous friends—whom I definitely have and are not made up at all—support them, now stop asking me about what should be done with them because I cannot answer this question just as I cannot answer any of your other questions!”

        Fuck that noise I told you my stance in my first response to you and you went “hur hur Marxist party must be kkk”, go be a better person first, it’s not my job to make you one.

        The SDP ordered the Freikorps to murder Rosa Luxemburg, I’m guessing this is the “marxist” party you voted for. I know you’ll deny it, but you’re so much more transparent than you realize. You’re only against amerikkka when it comes to issues that the corporate press gave up on supporting many years ago. Wherever it fully counts, you are 100% onboard with whatever the nazis in the CIA are telling you via whatever bourgeois media you lap up like the running dog you are. This is why you ignore the nazis running the USA and whatever european shithole you live in and focus all your ire on Russia instead.

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            1 year ago

            You’re not answering questions again because you don’t have any answers. If your Ukrainian friends are making excuses for a government run by Nazis, I have some bad news for you.

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              Why would I need to answer, you already know them all silly goose :3

              Your assumptions are divined correctly, as you willed them to be the explanation! Didn’t you know that’s how it worked? You are the main character after all.

              You willing random strangers you don’t know to be Nazi’s is totally not a a bad reflection on you, nope, that’s not possible. You can rest assured you just called strangers you don’t know Nazi’s, and your hate for them is therefore justified. Now rest at ease warrior of divination, your war is victorious.

              Now I will go onwards and try to keep hidden my true feelings for Roma people, which is sooo much harder now that you’ve proven it to be a lie :(

              Damn you American Hero, I was no match for you and your powers of willing answers into existence! And also willing your hatred to people you don’t know in existence, but hey, what’s a few accidental causalities of war for an American right? :D

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                1 year ago

                Did I hallucinate the statue which the coup government in Ukraine constructed in Lviv to honor a Nazi collaborator?

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                  Alrighty, before you make assumptions as you tend to do, I’ll say Banderas is a despicable person. But let’s talk about monuments to him.

                  You know the stele to Banderas in Lviv was constructed in 2007 right? If you are talking about another one, go ahead and link it. 2007 is long before this “western coup” happened (and it started construction in like 2004?). Why did Yanukovych allow this? Why did Putin protect Yanukovych afterwards, he decreed Banderas a “hero”. Sounds like harboring a Nazi to me.

                  But even then, let’s say what you say is right, does that mean all Ukrainians are Nazis because one government build a monument? Does that mean the average person deserves to be bombed by Russia? Does it make right the broken families I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with who have lost their children to missiles fired by Russia?

                  Is this your justification to call Ukrainians you don’t know “Nazi by default”? Damn, I guess all Americans must be filthy colonizers, genociders and racists, because I’m fairly sure some monuments have gone up in recent years endorsing people who were busy genociding the Native population. Does this mean you are a racist by default as well as you are American?? Damn…

                  I’ll make clear that argument is made with large sarcasm undertones, it’s a ridiculous notion but it’s one you’re currently employing when referring to my Ukrainian friends as “swastika forehead tattoos”. That’s why I keep telling you, you are justifying hate of an entire nation of people because you want to hate them. So far I’ve refrained from even talking about Russia’s warts (aside from the obvious lgbtqia+ one).

                  But here you can see a list of monuments to him. Fairly strange that after the “Western coup” barely any were constructed anymore, 3 if my count is correct. I’d urge you not to count the ones under Yanukovych, the one removed by the “western coup”. It’s a depressingly larger number. You’d imagine they’d double down on the nazi element after Yanukovych. Or maybe your media isn’t as free from propaganda as you had thought either. Maybe you’re consuming another authoritarian/imperialist’s propaganda on the matter.

                  But don’t let facts get in the way of your hate.

                  Talking about Nazis in this war, you know Wagner was made by a Nazi? Yeah that one Putin loved so much till recent history. Dmitry Utkin, stellar guy, has SS tattoo’s and a photo with Putin, he got awarded “hero of the russian federation” lol! Guess he doesn’t care about Russian Nazis all that much, weird. I know it’s not as dramatic as forehead swastika’s, but it’s pretty damn close tbh. This is the same private military company taking over mines in Africa, and being sent to assassinate a Jewish person by Russia.

                  That’s all ignoring that Russian itself has a very long troubled history with Neo-Nazism. They fund the actual Nazi’s in my country lol. That’s a really strange way of denazifying places, by magnifying their voice in politics! If this is the “critical support” you are willing to offer them, I have some bad news, you are critically supporting a country supporting Nazis in Europe.

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                    You know the stele to Banderas in Lviv was constructed in 2007 right?

                    Planning for the monument began almost the instant the USA succeeded in its long-term project of annihilating the USSR, causing millions of deaths, way back in 1993. (See page 3.) It’s almost as though the idea of Ukrainian nationalism is fundamentally united to Nazism!

                    But even then, let’s say what you say is right, does that mean all Ukrainians are Nazis because one government build a monument? Does that mean the average person deserves to be bombed by Russia? Does it make right the broken families I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with who have lost their children to missiles fired by Russia?

                    I never said that all Ukrainians are Nazis. I said that their government is run by Nazis, and that people excusing a Nazi government (like yourself) are likewise Nazis.

                    I’m not sure why you care so much about the Ukrainian people though when you don’t give a damn about the millions that have perished (and the tens of millions who have had their lives destroyed) thanks to America’s wars subsequent to 9/11. If you cared about these people, surely you would at least raise an eyebrow when America orders you to support their NATO imperialism without question? Surely you would think that maybe mass murderers shouldn’t be trusted?

                    barely any were constructed

                    Dude you are such a joke. How many Nazi monuments do you pass during your daily commute? ONE Nazi monument is too much! There shouldn’t be any monuments to Nazism anywhere! Why do liberals have such trouble understanding that Nazism is not only bad, but also suicide! Don’t you remember how Hitler’s life ended? And who drove him to that point?

                    It’s interesting you bring up Utkin, who hasn’t been seen in public since 2016. When Chinese tennis players vanish for a day, liberals around the world have tantrums and meltdowns, but when the Russians were embarrassed by this Nazi and possibly even made him disappear, total silence from liberals, especially given the fact that public displays of Nazism are illegal in Russia and encouraged in the USA. Highly interesting. But there are actually Nazis in Russia, they’re just working for the CIA.