• thericofactor@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    86
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 days ago

    It’s literally the first line of the article: cost up to $45 million, was short on attendees, long on political speeches.

    • Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      92
      ·
      3 days ago

      Isn’t it what all parades are? Costly and propagandish? That is their essence.

      And that “short on attendees” needs concrete numbers. If there were 15 people total, I would agree without knowing how many were actually expected…

      • kingofras@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        71
        ·
        3 days ago

        Remember to just agree with the .ml and .zip gang… they’re just being fair and objective.

        • Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          arrow-down
          49
          ·
          3 days ago

          Not sure what you mean, but I think too many people just demonstrate their “wishful thinking”. They want to convince people (themselves in the first place) that something went wrong with the parade, while it was a completely ordinary parade. People will start to discuss face expressions of the people in the 4th row, the colour of the ribbons on the left column, the weather, whatever, to find even the smallest flaws.

            • Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              10
              arrow-down
              24
              ·
              3 days ago

              Source of those numbers? If they are true, then you have serious reasons to call that a “failure” indeed. Where did you get them from?

              • witty_username@feddit.nl
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                17
                ·
                3 days ago

                I think they didn’t provide a source because there are no reliable numbers. Those may still come at a later date.
                I did find these sources though. They suggest that the turnout was substantially lower than expected and that estimates of attendance numbers are hotly debated.

                https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/trump-military-parade-crowd-size-protests-s3pkrphr8

                https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-protests-military-parade

                https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2kqe5yv0yzt

              • Oniononon@sopuli.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                Grab photos and do what the experts do: count heads.

                Even at a glance on those photos you look like a fucking braindead idiot.

              • sthetic@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 days ago

                I know you’re getting downvoted a lot, but I don’t think you’re a Trump supporter or arguing in bad faith. I know what you mean.

                People on the left, like myself, were always going to call the parade a failure. It was always going to be a sad, pointless attempt at spectacle. By its very nature, it was a failure. In no world were we going to say, “yeah I hate the guy, but damn if he doesn’t know how to throw a bitchin’ parade.”

                On the flipside, Trump and Maga folks were always going to call it a success. Or maybe there are reports of angry red hat people who expected a better show and were disappointed. Unlikely, though.

                On what terms do you define its success or failure? Yes, attendance is one. If they expected ten times as many people, then, as you say, it’s a failure. You aren’t wrong for asking for a source.

                I think your original comment was less along the lines of, “how do we know it wasn’t an amazing success, though?” and more like, “wasn’t the parade exactly as expected?”

          • Aeao@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            28
            ·
            3 days ago

            How much of the parade did you watch? I watched none. I think most of America will say they didn’t even bother to turn on the tv, most probably forgot it was happening at all.

            Compare that to the Macy’s day parade. It was a failure. He wanted it to be a big deal, it absolutely was not a big deal. Failure.