The people lining up, instead of parking and taking 5 mins to go inside, are terminally stupid. I encountered this the other day, and I was out the door with my coffee before the line had even moved.
It’s a catch-22 though. Like, if I get out of my car for 5 minutes with it off then it just heats up to 1000 degrees. I get that the idea of quickly going in and walking out is nice, and I would honestly prefer to not have it at all (yay for just making coffee at home). However for us in incredibly hot climates it isn’t something I ever try to do. It’s 107 out today, 5 minutes with my car off turns it into like 135 on the inside. Of course all of this just adds more to emissions. Which is all of the problem….
Of course all of this just adds more to emissions. Which is all of the problem….
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how about we shift that attention into laws and infrastructure that penalize this behavior by corporations
Completely agree, this is what we should be focusing on. YOUR CAR isn’t doing shit. ALL OF OUR CARS collectively are doing shit. You can change your behavior and feel better about yourself, but this problem was caused by laws, oil money lobbying, and the resulting policy. Laws and policy are the way out of it, not making people feel bad about their “choices.”
I agree. Telling private citizens with no direct incentives to spend their own money to throw a thimble full of water on this wildfire of a problem is not a realistic approach. Regulation on business, which can dedicate people and teams to solve for these things in their industries, and have a financial incentive to make it happen, while also having a significantly larger impact, makes much more sense.
But, 35% of global emissions come from commercial energy use and direct carbon production. The problem is not Jim-Bob in his F-350 (though that’s an entire other issue that should be regulated). The problem is Eric Moneybags and his 15 million dollars of carbon credits who gets to ignore EPA regulations because he has deeper pockets.
The problem is things like the CAFE regulations that essentially subsidize Jim-Bob’s F-350 by exempting it from the same requirements that govern regular cars, and (from your previous comment) the zoning codes that prohibit density and literally displace you outside of walking distance from your grocery store and work.
My car I bought recently has remote start. So I can turn it (and the AC) on right before I’m about to leave. A minute is enough for it to start blasting plenty of cold air.
Many coffee and fast food restaurants around where I live closed down internal seating around covid and still haven’t opened the backup now due to staffing issues. Terminally stupid my ass.
I used to always go inside as I hate drive through windows. With Covid the inside parts closed. Some still seem closed. It seems so foreign to go into a lot of places now. I have to wonder as new locations go up if they’ll eliminate the dining rooms to save money.
The people lining up, instead of parking and taking 5 mins to go inside, are terminally stupid. I encountered this the other day, and I was out the door with my coffee before the line had even moved.
Wasn’t that a covid thing?
With that being said, there is no way i would’ve waited there when i saw 3 or more cars.
No, I see it happen in my hood. Sometimes the overflow blocks oncoming traffic too and that’s when you have to actually honk at these utter fuckwits.
Are you by any chance telling them to walk on their legs?
It’s a catch-22 though. Like, if I get out of my car for 5 minutes with it off then it just heats up to 1000 degrees. I get that the idea of quickly going in and walking out is nice, and I would honestly prefer to not have it at all (yay for just making coffee at home). However for us in incredibly hot climates it isn’t something I ever try to do. It’s 107 out today, 5 minutes with my car off turns it into like 135 on the inside. Of course all of this just adds more to emissions. Which is all of the problem….
Electric cars, if you’re going to have a car, do help with this. You just leave the air conditioning on.
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Completely agree, this is what we should be focusing on. YOUR CAR isn’t doing shit. ALL OF OUR CARS collectively are doing shit. You can change your behavior and feel better about yourself, but this problem was caused by laws, oil money lobbying, and the resulting policy. Laws and policy are the way out of it, not making people feel bad about their “choices.”
You seemed to take that comment a little personally. I’m sure it wasn’t meant that way.
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I agree. Telling private citizens with no direct incentives to spend their own money to throw a thimble full of water on this wildfire of a problem is not a realistic approach. Regulation on business, which can dedicate people and teams to solve for these things in their industries, and have a financial incentive to make it happen, while also having a significantly larger impact, makes much more sense.
The problem is things like the CAFE regulations that essentially subsidize Jim-Bob’s F-350 by exempting it from the same requirements that govern regular cars, and (from your previous comment) the zoning codes that prohibit density and literally displace you outside of walking distance from your grocery store and work.
Yeah that’s what sucks right now. It does kinda feel like your responding to something I didn’t say though :-/
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My car I bought recently has remote start. So I can turn it (and the AC) on right before I’m about to leave. A minute is enough for it to start blasting plenty of cold air.
This was during Covid social distancing, probably right when Starbucks was allowed to open back up.
Many coffee and fast food restaurants around where I live closed down internal seating around covid and still haven’t opened the backup now due to staffing issues. Terminally stupid my ass.
Equally terminally stupid your ass, because you can make coffee at home during highly infectious outbreaks.
I used to always go inside as I hate drive through windows. With Covid the inside parts closed. Some still seem closed. It seems so foreign to go into a lot of places now. I have to wonder as new locations go up if they’ll eliminate the dining rooms to save money.
Yes because sitting in my car jamming to my music is soooooo stupid.
No, but twenty of you sitting in your idling cars is unbelievably stupid
Start/stop technology.