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    I love hearing from centrists, who’ve shat the bed every election for over a decade. Without COVID we’d currently be in the third Trump term, all because of you folks.

    You see AOC and Bernie filling football stadiums in red states and you think: “We should totally nominate Harris again”. Here in Missouri voters approved a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and legal abortion, but sure, just keep running centrist candidates. That’s totally gonna work.

    I wish you all would fight fascism with an iota of the fervor with which you fight the Mamdanis of the world.

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      $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and legal abortion,

      The fact this isn’t a centrist position shows how cooked the US is.

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        I think the big issue with centrists is they pay absolutely no attention to what’s really happening, but wear the term “centrist” like a badge of honor.

        So on one end we have Nazis, and the other end we have Democrats who are mostly Center-Right, and then the centrists try to find the middle of that but not having any idea if what that means.

        And then we keep getting the enshitification of the U.S.

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        The centrist position is pro-starvation and pro-theft of labor wrapped in a rainbow flag. (and a bloody one at that, considering how pro-war they are too.)

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        Yeah, $15 is so put of date. They were pushing for 15 BACK IN 2008, the last time it moved, before housing prices doubled/tripled. 15 would be trash pay, but it’s still TOO MUCH for corporate owned Democrats to even pretend to support

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      Leftists consistently lose elections.

      Voters have consistently shown they don’t want to elect leftists.

      Centrists have won the majority of elections since the 90s.

      AOC and Bernie would lose worse than Harris in a national election. Just like all leftists have.

      When voters have chosen the option furthest to the right it is stupid to think that running a candidate further left would do anything but lose.

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        Democrats had to rig not one, but two primaries against Bernard Sanders, and not only did they not deny it, they argued in court that it was their right to do so.

        No one fails harder than centrists. They are objectively, evidently pathetic. If COVID hadn’t occurred we’d be in the third Trump presidency, and you’d still be sitting here like a good bootlicker telling me I didn’t vote hard enough for centrists and ignoring that AOC and Bernard Sanders are filling football stadiums in red states.

        I repeat: I wish you all fought as hard against fascism as you do for the billionaire class.

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          AOC and Bernie stopped in my red state. I went and saw more than half the license plates were from out of state. Those that were from my state were from the one blue county.

          We recently had an election between an establishment Republican and a progressive and the progressive lost by a landslide.

          Don’t lie to yourself. AOC and Bernie have fans that will travel to see them from other states.

          Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.

          Progressives can’t even beat other candidates that get funded by AIPAC let alone beat republicans.

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            Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.

            LOL, did you happen to see Joe Biden’s dementia on full public display last summer?

            They are not trying to stop anyone from throwing an election, or they wouldn’t have let Joe Biden crown a weak candidate.

            Democrats are rigging primaries to help the billionaire class, and doing so in full knowledge that they’re aiding fascists, because they themselves are profiting off of it.

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              Voters were very clear that they would consider it a betrayal to primary instead of replacing Biden with the Vice President since that is the job of a vice president.

              Trump says way more crazy shit than Biden and he won. Matter of fact Trump lost by a lot in 2020, if he were to follow the same strategy as leftists he would’ve quit before trying again in 2024.

              All politicians and forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Just look at Fetterman and Sinema. Just because someone claims to be progressive doesn’t mean they won’t help the billionaire class or fascists.

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                Voters were very clear that they would consider it a betrayal

                No, they weren’t. There wasn’t a primary.

                Trump says way more crazy shit than Biden and he won.

                Apples to oranges. You saw Biden’s meltdown and I did too.

                All politicians and forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Just look at Fetterman and Sinema. Just because someone claims to be progressive doesn’t mean they won’t help the billionaire class or fascists.

                A salient point. The Democrats’ next campaign slogan should be: Better things aren’t possible if you vote for us.