Applies to the Dutch as well.
Nordics: Looks around nervously.
Can confirm no matter what the weather’s doing we’ll complain abt it lol
What this doesn’t note is that there’s approximately two hours between #2 and #3.
I heard a Brit say the other day it was scorching out. So I asked how hot it was, they said 25 degrees C. I laughed so hard I almost fell from my chair. Where I live it was 33 degrees at that time and had been 39 degrees earlier that week.
Troubleis , the UK is a massive sponge that spends 75% of the year soaking up all the rain, which it then gives back to us whenever the sun comes out.
Dry or humid?
The problem with British heat is that it’s very humid, which is a lot worse than a dry heat. I’ve hardly felt a dry European 40°, but anything over 27° at home (Sheffield) and I’m just flobbing about trying to cool down.
“at home (Sheffield)”.
There’s a small section of my brain that seems to be permanently reserved for mentally cheering whenever I stumble across someone from near where I hail from, even if I haven’t lived there for many years now
Extremely humid, we were at 86% around then.
Fair enough. It’s probably just what you’re used to then. I remember being over in the Caribbean a few years ago, someone got out of the sea and went “it’s cold”. Cold I said? You come to England I’ll show you cold.
Cue the northern Canadians scoffing at my definition of cold.
It’s not often over 25° here so we’re not used to it. Plus our houses are designed to keep the heat in and the cold wet out.
The other commenter is right, but another problem is that our homes and cities are designed to trap a lot of heat in. So while it might say 25C on the weather apps, it can get up to 40C inside. Come to the UK during the summer and you will understand.
It’s because you don’t know how to manage it. For a short term, few hot days, the trick is to air all night and shut everything up early in the morning as soon as the temperature starts rising. Your house will trap cold just as well as warm. But British people think that open windows = colder so they mess this up every time. I lived in the UK for the last three summers, in a perfectly ordinary row house from the 70s. It was fine with normal heat management strategies that one would use in eg Germany. Yes, if a heatwave lasts a long time this strategy will start to fail, if you can’t cool properly at night, but it works for at least three days of over 30°.
There’s only so much that can do. I have the silver windscreen things on my windows, foil, white paper. Close the windows and curtains when it starts getting warmer outside than inside. Keep my bedroom door open to encourage air from the cooler part of the house to flow. Maybe it makes a difference, it’s hard to tell. All I know is, even with the door open, the moment I step from the hallway into my room, it goes from mild to hot and stuffy. I’ve tried putting the fan in the doorway facing into my room to help suck the cooler air in, it makes little difference. A spray bottle and fan blowing directly on me is the only way to keep cool. Then in the evening, if we’re lucky, all windows open.
I have a second floor (3rd floor to the Americans) bedroom facing almost directly south.
Also I heard, I think it was on a documentary some years ago, it takes about 2 weeks for the body to fully adjust to big changes in temperature, and we rarely get two weeks of consistency, so we can never adapt. I’ll have to go look up if this is true.
Wow, well, you are doing the right things. Are you sure there’s not some serious heat source inside your room? Gaming PC with a big monitor or something? Being on the south side is obviously not helping but it’s surprising that it’s that much hotter than the rest of the house, which is staying cooler.
Nope, no big heat sources. Just south facing and high up with terrible air flow. Doesn’t help that everyone on our street is turning their lawns into patios and chopping down the trees. Next time we get a heat wave (I think we’re due another soon), I’ll measure the temp difference between my room, the hall and the next door room which faces north. It’s probably only a degree or two, but it feels so much worse.
I had the same response when I went LA a few years ago. It was 24 and I thought it was boiling all the LA people roared with laughter
english weather is so mild that they as a civilization havent really got to good heating and cooling yet
We’re good at heating, but yeah not great at cooling. Thing it it’s only really an issue for maybe 4 or 5 weeks in a year in total. So far.
Nothing can convince me that northern European climate isn’t the best climate for humans. It’s nice to have warm summers and all but for the rest of the year I’ll decide how hot I am thank you very much.
Do you mean the oceanic climate of France and England, because the ocean moderates the temperatures so winters aren’t as cold and summers not as hot as the continental climates in the rest of northern europe.
Speaking as someone who grew up in a continental climate i would not say they’re the best. Winters can be horrible and make you it so it’s unbearable to be outside for more then 5 minutes.
In general ocean moderated climates are the best because they’re much more moderate. Mediterranean climate is the best because of this.
The best climate is here in Medellin. It’s called the city of eternal spring. All year round the daytime temperatures are around 23°.
I really like having seasons. Seeing nature around you change every year is fascinating. Also there’s nothing like walking home on a crisp snowy winter night. 23°C is around my upper limit for what’s comfortable.
As somebody who still wears shorts in -5C, that does sound pretty nice. Anything above about 27 can go fuck itself.
The neat thing about being at the equator is that temperature is more to do with your altitude than any other factor. If you want to be hotter in Colombia you just go downhill. Higher up if you want to get colder. Bogota is closer to 15° all year since it’s a few hundred meters higher up in the mountains than Medellin. Cartagena is closer to 29° since it’s right on the coast at sea level.
No lol. Humans evolved to live in 25c as a normal average temperature. Living in colder places like the UK and Russia is facilitated and made possible only by immense burning of massive amounts of fossil fuels through both direct heating and manufacture of clothes.
You do realise that people did live in the UK (and Russia) before the discovery of fossil fuels, right?
Yeah, but it was miserable for 90% of the population during winter. If you were a peasant that ran out of fuel in the winter you were likely to die of hypothermia back in the day if you werent in top health.
Live? No. Survive? Yes. Some still do out there I think.
25c - 34c is the comfortable temp range range for summer/spring though at UK moisture levels and wind speeds. It’s too wet and too windy for even that to feel particularly hot.
Once you account for wind chill and humidity, UK 10c winter temp is like ~4c actual felt temp.
And misunderstanding moisture levels effect on perceived temperature too? Damn. You’re without a doubt the most uneducated person I’ve encountered this week.
Being uneducated and calling others uneducated? Are you a Reddit refugee by any chance?
Go read:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_comfort https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_temperature
High humidity and low temperatures cause the air to feel chilly.
Cold air with high relative humidity “feels” colder than dry air of the same temperature because high humidity in cold weather increases the conduction of heat from the body.
There has been controversy over why damp cold air feels colder than dry cold air. Some believe it is because when the humidity is high our skin and clothing become moist and are better conductors of heat, so there is more cooling by conduction.
You can check the primary sources under the claims on Wikipedia yourself and maybe learn a thing or two before you go around spread misinformation and calling others uneducated and making a confidently incorrect fool out of yourself.
I would also read some about “Wind chill” and the Heat Index. Start with Wikipedia but check the sources and explore these concepts. Then look at thermodynamics and how heating in your home actually happens and how insulation plays into it and how energy is produced.
Good day.
I am going to assume you’re autistic since you’ve clearly given this a lot of thought, yet lack understanding.
Evolution doesn’t have a goal or plan at all. We humans have evolved with the necessary traits to live in, every environment we currently live in. You want to argue that our ability to warm ourselves with clothing and cook our food doesn’t count? Do you hold other animals, like for example ants to the same standard? Their ability to build and cooperative, like us humans, is the reason they’re some of the most successful species on the planet. But you want to judge ants by a single ant on its own?
I am well versed in the subjects you linked. I just believe you’ve gotten a weird idea in your head about where humans are “meant to live”.
Could you point me to where you picked up these ideas? I’d like to be aware if there’s some new global warming acceleration movement going on, which I’m assuming you’re promoting.
I was responding to your claim that I was misunderstanding the effect of humidity on air temperature.
Hence y’know - all the stuff about humidity and air temperature? The stuff I posted that you’re allegedly “well-versed” on?
Judging Ants? Evolution? Did you reply to the wrong thread or are you just spamming random nonsense? And why are you talking like a 14 year old? And what is with all that ableist shit about autistic people? Is it meant to be insulting?
Edit: Now that I think about it, that insult doesn’t even make any sense - autistic people usually are known for having a special interest and lots of specific knowledge in an obscure subject.
The “autism” as-internet-insult that I think you’re using is meant to imply someone is out of touch or too deep in the weeds wrt some overly nerdy topic like ricing window managers in Linux or something.
I definitely don’t know much about the topic at all nor have I thought about this for very long, this isn’t my specialty, nor do I claim to be “well-versed in all these subjects” which I’m not sure is even actually possible as they’re separate areas of study - but if I were, I would not use it as a source of authority, I just have the basic research skills needed to cite established and well-regarded sources to back up the specific claims I made.
If you’d like to prove something in a debate or make a point in a discussion or establish a claim as valid - you should probably do so by doing the same, not simply claiming to be an authority and then going on some rant about ants and autism.
Blocked.
Judging by the downvotes people really underestimate how much emissions come from heating and how intolerable temperate continental winters are without it.
And also don’t seem to understand how wind speed and rH% actually mean that it could be argued UK winters are anything but “temperate”.
That’s a grave misunderstanding of both evolution and human history you got there my guy.
So, from what I gather most Brits don’t have AC?
When I was growing up we didn’t need it at all, however within the last couple of decades the temperatures have really ramped up to noticeable degrees. There are parts of my house which have gone to 30c, which never used to happen.
I have invested in two air conditioning units, however it’s just an added expense that feels like patchwork (given projections of climate change getting far worse).Nope. We don’t even all own electric fans.
Can confirm, have been through all three stages just this morning
I don’t think #2 exists
My wife for the past few weeks. In fact since I met her about 6 years ago.
Britain need a little light?
they COULD use a little tanning.
