Here’s the article: https://dallasexpress.com/crime/uncovering-militants-motives-anarchist-propaganda-linked-to-fort-worth-ice-ambush/
lol, propaganda like “fascism is bad”.
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A fediverse post by Abolisyonista ( @abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist ) saying "Anarchist attacked ICE in Texas and the mainstream media is citing passages from the anarchist library and all the passages are based??? https://dallasexpress.com/crime/uncovering-militants-motives-anarchist-propaganda-linked-to-fort-worth-ice-ambush/ " It has a picture of the “know the work rules” meme/comic, it shows a woman with ginger/orange hair holding a telephone saying “Hello, based department?!” with a concerned look on her face.
Only if propaganda is defined as “condensed soundbytes for getting across political ideas” in which case that’s awesome.
We need more propaganda to reach the masses. Get in their heads that their own interests and wellbeing is more important than billionaires 😄
Propaganda in and of itself is neither good nor bad. It’s just something trying to convince people of something. The content of the propaganda is what could be good or bad.
Thank you! Very much hate the common understanding of it to always be bad nowadays.
It is a very interesting debate. Very heated on reddit. Like is there any definite line between propaganda and sharing info?
I’m on the side that most human-generated info is propaganda to a certain extent, but I’m probably overshooting. Science usually isn’t. I think the reddit definition was pretty neat. Something along the lines of disseminating info to certain groups. Suuuper broad, but a bit more strict than my thoughtless version.
I don’t see what I do as propaganda. I see what I do as counter-propaganda.
I have no need to “convice” people of anything at all… as the reaction to Israel’s genocidal actions prove, the working class is fully capable of thinking for itself once all the lies have been stripped away. That’s what the working class needs help with.
I think propaganda is more than just convincing people. Its also describes a way of acting and a relationship between the one(s) doing propaganda and the one(s) being (not) influenced/convinced by it.
From my anarchist perspective propaganda as a tool is not really desirable in achieving my vision of anarchism because instead of building trusting realtionships between equals, it kinda opens up a divide between the propagandists and the others without really enabling a dialogue or discussion. Of course in reality its not this much of a binary (and I can see others having a different understanding of the term propaganda), but I think it would be still preferable to choose ways of convincing others that actually build those relationships.
The term “propaganda” is quite nebulous. Anything with a political message can basically be described as propaganda… and yeah, I don’t think trying to promote an idea in a catchy, snappy way is necessarily bad.
“Revolutionary solidarity is always an active attack; it always involves the recovery of our own active powers that multiply in combination – in solidarity – with the active powers of others,” the document reads.
It encourages anarchists to store up anger when they witness perceived injustice, so they can turn it into violence later.
“I again open up this special compartment and put the anger of some new atrocity in it, all in anticipation of the day when I shall need this anger to bring the Empire down.”
“I perceive my anger calling me from inside this compartment, I hear the door unlatching from inside, and this new terrible question approaches me: How shall I know when it’s time for insurrection?”
It is so amazing how one side is using war-time speech to promote peace and the other (unquoted voice of the article) is using peace-time phrasing to sustain the war. The former emphasizes the urgency, the latter manipulates towards isolation with internalized shaming tactics. Truly leopardsatemyface level of journalism, 8/10, good luck with the ad revenue on that one.
This article is so bad it’s good. 8/10.
Anarchists try not to be based, gone wrong in the soup kitchen. (99% FAIL!!!)
I think… I’m hungry for seconds, and maybe another drink. NO ICE!
dalla sex press?I can’t unsee that now.
