Yep, yep, and yep to all of that, and some of it I’ve said for over a year and was dismissed with “just give it time”.
The Lemmy network in general is comprised of a lot of people who are here (I’m sorry to say) because they are too poorly socialized even for reddit,
I’ve always referred to that as the “elephant in the room fediverse”. But yeah, I fully agree that’s definitely a major contributing factor to the current environment. I even made a joke post about it the other day: https://dubvee.org/post/3789665
Here's the gist of the post to save you a click
Title: “We are not the same”
The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that…not so much.
I still believe a critical mass of more ah, well-adjusted people can improve the culture, but that day gets further and further away as long as the existing culture remains in the state it is in.
Like I said in my shutdown/meta post, I want the concept of the fediverse to succeed. I really do. But exactly as you just said (and others have said and I have said), the more well-adjusted people need to arrive in a critical mass, and I don’t feel there’s an environment here to welcome them let alone attract them or entice them to stick around. Maybe that will change. I hope it does, but I’m not optimistic enough to stick around and find out.
I do feel we started out on the right foot back in mid 2023, but as we’ve grown, we’ve just turned into a refuge for people who have proven too toxic to remain anywhere else.
At the end of the day, aside from the people like you, ValueSubtracted, and other friendly faces names I’ve come to enjoy seeing around these last couple years, I’m going to miss the idea of this place far more than the place itself.
At the end of the day, aside from the people like you, ValueSubtracted, and other friendly faces names I’ve come to enjoy seeing around these last couple years
I mean Corgana and ValueSubtracted went on a campaign behind the scenes, harassing admins of various instances, trying to get me permanently banned because I left startrek.website and set up /c/TenForward. I’m going to be real? They’re exactly the problem that you’re talking about. They’re the toxic Rick and Morty from that meme… They got ran off of reddit by the users. They ran /r/StarTrek and were the reason why so many other subreddits had to be formed. To escape their abject tyranny. They then doubled down even harder and have gone completely insane on their own modlog.
Yep, yep, and yep to all of that, and some of it I’ve said for over a year and was dismissed with “just give it time”.
I’ve always referred to that as the “elephant in the
roomfediverse”. But yeah, I fully agree that’s definitely a major contributing factor to the current environment. I even made a joke post about it the other day: https://dubvee.org/post/3789665Here's the gist of the post to save you a click
Title: “We are not the same”
Like I said in my shutdown/meta post, I want the concept of the fediverse to succeed. I really do. But exactly as you just said (and others have said and I have said), the more well-adjusted people need to arrive in a critical mass, and I don’t feel there’s an environment here to welcome them let alone attract them or entice them to stick around. Maybe that will change. I hope it does, but I’m not optimistic enough to stick around and find out.
I do feel we started out on the right foot back in mid 2023, but as we’ve grown, we’ve just turned into a refuge for people who have proven too toxic to remain anywhere else.
At the end of the day, aside from the people like you, ValueSubtracted, and other friendly
facesnames I’ve come to enjoy seeing around these last couple years, I’m going to miss the idea of this place far more than the place itself.I mean Corgana and ValueSubtracted went on a campaign behind the scenes, harassing admins of various instances, trying to get me permanently banned because I left startrek.website and set up /c/TenForward. I’m going to be real? They’re exactly the problem that you’re talking about. They’re the toxic Rick and Morty from that meme… They got ran off of reddit by the users. They ran /r/StarTrek and were the reason why so many other subreddits had to be formed. To escape their abject tyranny. They then doubled down even harder and have gone completely insane on their own modlog.