• argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    And how, exactly, do you expect to institute this proposal over the objections of the rich? Every previous attempt to do something like this, like the communist revolutions in Russia and China, ended up killing millions of people and accomplishing nothing of virtue, because the rich retained power and forcibly twisted the new post-revolution economy into something even worse than capitalism.

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        1 year ago

        So, you propose that I live in a state of perpetual nausea from eating nothing but horrid-tasting, questionably-nutritious, plant-based “food” instead of actual food, and then die in the apocalypse anyway? No thanks. Civilization is done for, living in it is miserable enough already, and I am not interested in sacrificing what few shreds of happiness remain in order to accomplish basically nothing.

        The only way to avert the coming disaster is decisive, mandatory action from the top of society on down, and that obviously isn’t going to happen, so the best I can realistically hope for is to live it up and be dead before it gets really ugly.

        But I still do what I asked of others: I reduce my footprint

        Not as much as you could. You still live in shelter, use electricity, exhale carbon, eat carbon-absorbing plants, and excrete methane. Humanity’s very existence is driving global warming. There is no escape.

        support workers’ rights

        running for office

        working towards things like ending harmful subsidies

        None of these things are going to happen. The rich will string you up by the toenails before they let you derail their gravy train, and your fellow proles will cheer as they do it. That’s why we’re doomed: powerful people are enforcing our doom, and everyone else worships them.

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          You should realize that you’re preaching to the choir. If you agree with my outlook on collapse, then why did you pop up to attack me? If you realize what is coming then you realize that our trajectory is the omnicide. Again, I can only imagine that you feel obligated to attack the countercultural in order to relieve discomfort from condoning the mainstream through projection. This whole conversation is a bit absurd to be honest.

          You do you, and I’ll do me. I know I’m not making significant change. At best I might save a cactus species for another few decades - hardly a win in the big picture. But I feel fine about my life and that’s all I ask for. I hope you feel the same about yours.