• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    Related note: a lot of salvaged brick is stolen. Old rust belt cities like Detroit, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, etc. have so many abandoned brick buildings. People set fire to the building to collapse the wooden supports, and when the mortar holding the bricks together is heated by the fire, the pressure of the hose from responding firefighters helps flake it off and clean the brick. Then people show up a few days later, grab all of the undamaged bricks from the rubble, and sell it to unscrupulous distributors who flip it for a premium on new developments looking for that expensive aged brick look.

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      Glad someone’s getting a portion of that property’s value back to circulating in the economy if there are so many abandoned buildings. Like fungus eating fallen trees, returning nutrients to the soil.

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        Dude, they are committing arson…

        Firefighters and other people have died in fires from abandoned buildings.

        Arson is never okay, it’s dangerous and can kill people

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        They’re intentionally setting the buildings on fire to achieve that though. That’s seriously dangerous.

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        Sure, if you think it’s better to strip old buildings of value to make wealthy brick buyers happy instead of repurposing those old buildings for the public good of underserved communities.

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          Holy strawman. I don’t support this for buildings that are being repurposed for the public good, I support it for abandoned buildings. Most in my town have been abandoned for decades and the owners refuse to sell. At that point I’d even support vigilante demolition if it means we can remove the blight and replace it with something that benefits the community in any way.

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            Sorry, not looking to be accusatory, that’s on me for my own lack of additional context.

            Most of these buildings are abandoned due to white flight. The resources needed to support and maintain urban communities are disproportionately allocated to white, suburban growth, and the shells left behind were intentionally kept out of the hands of minority communities and left to rot.

            In my area, a lot of old mill towns have had their mills be repurposed as community centers, offices, business hubs, etc. after the mills were left abandoned for a number of years. The latest project near me is a beautiful looking conversion for subsidized housing for 60+ year old residents.

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              Ah, that makes sense. Here it’s just old failed restaurants and such with out-of-state owners who sit on the property, sending someone once a decade to do the bare minimum to keep the building from being condemned, hoping there’s a huge boom in property value eventually. I guess if they’re actually fully abandoned, as in nobody paying property taxes, the city or state can take steps to assume ownership.

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          Frequently, if not usually, renovating sufficiently old buildings is more expensive and difficult than new construction. Building codes and safety standards change a lot over the years.

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      TIL burnt-down-then-scrapped-for-pennies-by-the-poor brick buildings are the stone-washed jeans of the architectural world.

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    Love it when shitposting reaches out into the real world like some kind of digital tribute to The Creation of Adam (1508–1512).