only a handful of investigators at most have been assigned to work on the Nord Stream case on a full-time basis.

the perception among investigators is that the will to solve the case is not particularly pronounced in the capital. Politically, it is easier to live with what happened if it remains unclear who is behind the attacks.

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    Yeah this article is missing the mark. Much like the larger conflict the U.S. is going to throw Ukranians under the bus for it’s own agenda, like selling oil and gas to the EU at wildly inflated rates.

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      I don’t think Americans or Ukrainians can complain. The US gets to sell oil and weapons, and Ukraine gets the weapons they need. It’s win-win.

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          I did want to also follow up that selling weapons to the Ukrainian people is a huge win for them. They are in desperate need of them to defend their land. I’m not sure how I missed this in my first response 😂

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            I mean, there are active duty Ukranian soldiers that are missing limbs. How exactly did a forever war in Afghanistan work out for the general populace aside from annihilating a generation.

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              there are active duty Ukranian soldiers that are missing limbs

              Then ask Russia to stop invading? That would help.

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                Have you ever played 4x games? What does it mean when an opponent starts ringing your territory with bases and trying to get everyone to ally against you?

                Also if Russia just packed up and left today do you believe that there wouldn’t be an immediate ethnic cleansing of the eastern Ukranian, Russian speaking population?

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                  immediate ethnic cleansing

                  You mean the removal of the russian population that was occupying crymea? Besides those, I’m sure that there will be a lot of hate for russian speaking people, but tough fucking luck, guess why. Russian could have not invaded crymea and people would not have harboured hate for the ethnicity and language.

                  “Oh thanks for packing up and leaving, now my territory is destroyed and economy fucked up, thanks!” of course that people will blame tons fo thing in Russia, it’s what I would expect of any oppressed population.

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                    Are you not aware of the fact that a large part of the population of Ukraine, especially in the eastern parts of the country, are ethnic Russians who were born and raised there?

                    And why did you even bring up Crimea when the comment you replied to was clearly about Ukraine? Stop being dishonest.

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                They aren’t interested in liberating Ukraine either. They have been on the wrong side of every fucking military conflict for like 75 years, but now they have decided to be liberators?

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                  You must have forgotten about the Cold War. The US Military designed and built almost everything that has been sent over so far for a conflict with Russia.

                  I feel like we are way off topic now, and you seem to be defending Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. What exactly is your point here?

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                    No, I remember the cold war and the multiple proxy wars the US instigated then too. They were in the wrong and the destruction of the USSR was a tragedy. The neoliberals got exactly what they wanted in the creation of the Russian Federation, but that just meant more war in the end, as we see with the current conflict. Yeltsin was NATO’s guy, and Putin was Yeltsin’s guy. Fuckin’ whoops.

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          I meant it more in the context of the article as a motive for shutting down the nord stream. The list of why NATO countries (and Ukraine) would want to stop it goes on and on.

          Personally, I’m just happy that a revenue stream for Putin’s mafia has been shut down. As has now been shown, nothing good comes from money going to his oligarchs.

          edit: If you want to know the lengths US congressmen will go for money, look at what happened to the Middle East. I’m not saying that’s what happened to the nord stream, but it’s honestly plausible to me that either side blew it up.

          I am not itching to find out who because whatever the case, Russia should learn to stay within its borders. It’s less money flowing into it, and that makes me happy.

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        Right? And they are the mothballed shit that was gonna rot in a wearhouse instead of doing what they are supposed to do: blow Russians into tiny peices.

        Now we get to watch a field test in war conditions, restock our own troops with even better shit, design strategies with the use of drones after watching how well the Ukrainian military are using them, and sit on our ass providing intelligence while the Russians get royally fucked.