Copyright class actions could financially ruin AI industry, trade groups say.

AI industry groups are urging an appeals court to block what they say is the largest copyright class action ever certified. They’ve warned that a single lawsuit raised by three authors over Anthropic’s AI training now threatens to “financially ruin” the entire AI industry if up to 7 million claimants end up joining the litigation and forcing a settlement.

Last week, Anthropic petitioned to appeal the class certification, urging the court to weigh questions that the district court judge, William Alsup, seemingly did not. Alsup allegedly failed to conduct a “rigorous analysis” of the potential class and instead based his judgment on his “50 years” of experience, Anthropic said.

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    Yeah, who the fuck gave all these rich assholes the right to make money on others’ work?

    I’d like to know how these assholes get away with even training on GPL licensed code.

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    They have the entire public domain at their disposal.

    If giant megacorporations didn’t want their chatbots talking like the 1920s, they shouldn’t have spent the past century robbing society of a robust public domain.

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    I would not hold my breath. There is a high likelihood that the courts will side AI companies because the American courts are compromised.

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    I’m no fan of the copyright fuckery so commonly employed by (amongst others) the RIAA and MPAA, but this is honestly the best use of copyright law I can think of in recent memory.

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      It’s the neat part with giant monsters… sometimes they trod on each others toes and they stop eating us to tear each other apart and we get to sit back and watch.

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    AI industry, fucking around: Woo! This is awesome! No consequences ever! Just endless profits!

    AII, finding out: this fucking sucks! So unfair!

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    “If we have to pay for the intellectual property that we steal and repackage, our whole business model will be destroyed!”

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      One thing this whole AI training debacle has done for me: made me completely guilt-free in pirating things. Copyright law has been bullshit since Disney stuck their finger in it and if megacorps can get away with massively violating it, I’m not going to give a shit about violating it myself.

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        For me it was Disney floating the idea of asking the wrongful death suit be dismissed because of the liability waiver in a Disney+ free trial.

        I have the $$$, but I don’t agree with the terms for any of the streaming services, so I’ll just sail the seven seas and toss a doubloon (coin) to independent creators (my witchers) when I can.

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        I’m pretty much there too, the whole industry consolidates on the new things and charges us as they make it worse. And there can be some arguments to be made over the benefits of AI but we all know that it will not be immune to the entshitification that has already ruined all the things before it

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      If I downloaded ten movies to watch with my nephew in the cancer ward, they’d sue me into oblivion. Download tens of millions of books and claiming your business model depends on doesn’t make it okay. And sharing movies with my sick nephew would cause less harm to society and to the environment than AI does.

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      I started my own streaming service with pirated content. My business model depends on that data on my server.

      Same thing but for some reason it’s different. They hate when we use their laws against them. Let’s root they rule against this class action so we can all benefit from copyright being thrown out. Or alternatively it kills AI companies, either way is a win.

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        We’ll get a good taste of just how corrupt the US legal system now is, instead. Copyright law will still apply to we plebs, the Executive branch will overstep its powers, requiring some mafioso payoff from AI companies to keep doing what they do. The case will go away, mysteriously.

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      That’s unfair. They also have to sue people who infringe on “their” IP. You just don’t understand what it’s like to a content creator.

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    Hmm. I’m finding it hard to come up with more clever response to them than.

    " good "

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    If the appeals court denies the petition, Anthropic argued, the emerging company may be doomed. As Anthropic argued, it now “faces hundreds of billions of dollars in potential damages liability at trial in four months” based on a class certification rushed at “warp speed” that involves “up to seven million potential claimants, whose works span a century of publishing history,” each possibly triggering a $150,000 fine.

    Maybe they should have thought of that before they ripped off a century’s worth of published literature?

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    Are they expecting me to feel bad for them? Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

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      If your business model depends on not paying millions of people for the product of their issues, destroys the environment, and the product hallucinates and makes people psychotic, then your business deserves to die a quick and painful death.