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Boomers will also get locked out of a lot of content because verifying their age is too complicated. I feel no sympathy.
Not adjusting settings, but definitely auto updates which require a login and they’ve been adding more and more things that require an account so they can track you.
All of these people are future linux enjoyers, they just don’t know it yet.
The trend has accelerated this year, corpos are data mining and they want to court proof data against you.
It has been at least 10 years coming but it is now very clear for what they are going for here.
Between Israeli genocide and pedos within the power structure, the anti resime sentiment is growing too strong and it seems for once, fake news can’t change the narrative.
We are heading into the future where we won’t be able to criticize genocide or pedophiles.
Unfortunately it actually just means less computer literacy. If you can’t use a computer you just stay on your phone.
any phone that aint grapheneOS, aint worth using imho
however, i doubt grapheneos team will be able to bring a phone to market. looks like US and EU will outlaw them anyway here soon.
I have been out of the loop for a while so please excuse my question: Is it really necessary nowadays to let NVIDIA software connect to the internet to enter/change the graphic card settings? Years ago they only had this bullshit tool for looking up pre-made settings and an update agent, but all you had to do was to not install both when running the driver setup. I can’t even remember the name of them, deselecting this crap became like muscle memory. Did NVIDIA really change that in the meantime?
Zoomers need to learn they don’t need to use Nvidia’s app for this. Just download the driver directly.
This seems like it can be easily avoided by just downloading the drivers without using the nvidia app.
at this point just stop serving websites to the uk, and call it their “great firewall”
Relevant:
As one of the first Baby Boomers, it’s somewhat surrealistic for me to proof that I’m old enough to access an fucking web page.
As a millennial, it, too, is insane.
Which begs the question: who thinks this is a needed thing and a good idea? Who is pushing this agenda?
somebody in another post a few days ago suggested that this was about gaining control of the media narrative by gradually locking down parts of the internet. The idea being that today it’s adult content but tomorrow its about disagreeable narratives on YouTube, TikTok, and other secondary sources of Information.
-I’d think it were a stretch of the imagination but it was shown that the motives for trying to ban TikTok (in the U.S.) were the narratives shared on the platform about Israel’s ongoing genocide.
I hear that - I was around when Arche and Fido-net and BBS’es were king. You want my id? Great I’ll just fax it to you.
Why is it called “Lost Generation”?
Personally, I don’t know.
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation :
The Lost Generation was the demographic cohort that reached early adulthood during World War I, and preceded the Greatest Generation. The social generation is generally defined as people born from 1883 to 1900, coming of age in either the 1900s or the 1910s, and were the first generation to mature in the 20th century. The term is also particularly used to refer to a group of American expatriate writers living in Paris during the 1920s.[1][2][3] Gertrude Stein is credited with coining the term, and it was subsequently popularized by Ernest Hemingway, who used it in the epigraph for his 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises: “You are all a lost generation.”[4][5] “Lost” in this context refers to the “disoriented, wandering, directionless” spirit of many of the war’s survivors in the early interwar period.[6]
In the wake of the Industrial Revolution, Western members of the Lost Generation grew up in societies that were more literate, consumerist, and media-saturated than ever before, but which also tended to maintain strictly conservative social values. Young men of the cohort were mobilized on a mass scale for World War I, a conflict that was often seen as the defining moment of their age group’s lifespan. Young women also contributed to and were affected by the war, and in its aftermath gained greater freedoms politically and in other areas of life. The Lost Generation was also heavily vulnerable to the Spanish flu pandemic and became the driving force behind many cultural changes, particularly in major cities during what became known as the Roaring Twenties.
Later in their midlife, they experienced the economic effects of the Great Depression and often saw their own sons leave for the battlefields of World War II. In the developed world, they tended to reach retirement and average life expectancy during the decades after the conflict, but some significantly outlived the norm. The Lost Generation became completely ancestral when the last surviving person who was known to have been born in the Lost Generation or during the 19th century, Nabi Tajima, died in 2018 at age 117.[7]
Tldr: looks like life shit completely down their throats. Kinda feels familiar…
Life and the wealthy have been shitting on people for ever.
It’s OK, they were saved in the end … by a war that killed 100 million people.
Going into WWI was a bad time to be coming of age.
So 1 in 3 Zoomers are under 18. A little less, since birth rates fall every year.
You can on Linux just saying
It’s like people are just now noticing that they have zero ability to control their own digital lives because they traded it all away in order to not have to take the time to learn how to do things for themselves.
not trying to be rude, but it’s easy to get tunnel vision especially with tech spaces. before becoming involved in tech i had no idea that linux was even a thing. most of these people need education, they just didn’t know their options. they didn’t “choose” to throw away their rights because they didn’t know they had a choice.
I agree with this.
We all need to make what we know freely available in a friendly manner to make the path to Linux easier and more fun.
I have been offering 1:1 chats on signal to anyone who wants help switching to Linux.
Asking questions in forums and social media is intimidating. I despise the snobbery that often represents this community. I just want to help people regain some control over their digital lives.
I would be interested. So far I can’t say that I have ever been helped on social media or dedicated forums when it comes to Linux. It went mostly like this:
Me: “I have problem X. How can I solve it or at least get closer to a solution?”
Answer: “Lol, you idiot, you don’t even know how to do that!”
Me: “No, I don’t know. That’s why I’m asking. So what do I have to do? Edit a certain script? Get a certain program?”
Answer: “Grow a brain you noob!”
(Rinse and repeat)
Alternative answer, rarely: (Crickets)
I came to two conclusions because of this. First: The Linux community has the highest density of trolls of all communities. By far. Second: None of those people actually knew the answer to any of my questions, otherwise narcissism would have kicked in at least once and made someone slip a solution, just to brag with their knowledge and skills. Which means that the Linux community is also the least tech-savvy community as well. By far. So if someone actually knows something about Linux, they can’t be found in any Linux-dedicated place. At all.
Everything I learned about Linux to this day is based on trial-and-error. But I don’t have the time anymore to do that and it’s in general too time-consuming to reinstall distros over and over again because I went too far when trying something new. Currently I’m using Mint to browse the internet or do office tasks. But I would like to do more, like running certain Windows programs like DAWs with low latency. Or raising the polling rate of USB mice above 10 Hz (as in ten - that’s not a typo). Fortunately, copying or moving more than 1 GB to or from USB sticks without crashing the entire machine (no matter if NTFS or ExFAT) was solved last year, probably because of a kernel update. Well, it’s a work-in-progress-project, I know that Linux is more of a beta version of an OS and it’s free, I’m not complaining about such issues. I’m experimenting, having a look what can be done.
I’m okay with things actually not being possible. I would never complain about ReactOS not running modern Windows programs either. But I’m tired of Linux trolls claiming all kinds of stuff without ever providing any description, tutorial or evidence. And I’m tired of them insulting me because I don’t know something they obviously don’t know either. It’s ridiculous. So yeah, I’m still interested in talking to a single person who might actually know something and who is not part of “that Linux community”.
Sent you a DM, Interested to hear more about these problems!
Man you are doing <insert deity>'s work there
in a friendly manner
Emphasis on “friendly” because there’s a big “RTFM” issue on some Linux communities. Sure, it can be annoying getting the same questions constantly. But the “RTFM” response is condescending and artificially inflates the barrier to entry. People shouldn’t be expected to read, understand, and remember 200 pages of dense documentation just to learn how to update their graphics drivers. If someone is learning how to drive, telling them “read the owner’s manual for your car” is just toxic. Sure the owners manual will have lots of useful info, but that doesn’t actually help the person who is trying to get started.
At the very least, point them in the right direction. You can say “RTFM” while still being helpful. Oh, you want to know how to do something specific via CLI? Cool, here’s a link to that specific section, which explains what the command you need does. As it currently stands, a lot of the most crucial info for newcomers is buried in obscure wiki articles and books. And longtime Linux users treat the struggle like a rite of passage. But not everyone is interested in that; They just want to ditch Windows because they can’t install Win11, and they’re looking for friendly alternatives.
I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying.
Linux has historically been a space for tech people and so the default assumption is that the user is competent (jokes aside…) and capable of understanding technical writing.
So, naturally, if a person asks a question which is answered in the documentation then they’re reminded that the answers exist already in the expected places and asking other people to do your own research for you rude.
The Linux demographic is shifting and we need to adjust, but cultural norms change slowly.
and they’re looking for friendly alternatives.
I think that this is part of the trap that keeps people stuck in the spyware/enshittification market.
Technology is complicated.
Try to imagine, from a technical point of view, how complex it is to run a service like Netflix. There are a lot of highly trained people designing, managing and maintaining the various systems to run the service that lets a user touch a picture on their phone screen to see a movie.
The user has an easy, friendly experience but that’s only because Netflix handles all of the complexity. This seems like a good deal initially. I mean,
$10$12$15$19.99/mo is a good price to pay to not have to know how to do all of that.But, now the user is completely dependent on service providers to stand between them and the complexity of technology so they never have a chance to learn because they never see how anything works.
This Faustian bargain is what lets these companies continue to spy on people and jack up the price of services while offering less service. Where are the users going to go?
Linux and the open source community offer a different bargain. You have to learn how to do things for yourself, but now you have actual meaningful choices about how you use technology and a community of people who are trying to solve the same problems as you.
Sure, it isn’t as easy. But easy isn’t free, and I’m tired of paying what they want to charge.
My literal job consists of helping other (generally much less technically savvy) representatives provide support to our end users, and it being their literal job to provide “tech” help to users is still not enough of an incentive for 80+% of them to learn anything beyond basic computing. Sometimes it’s like pulling teeth just to get a fucking click path or screenshot of what’s actually happening.
Now expand that out to now I am not getting paid to help people and those asking for help are often VERY entitled that they deserve to have their hand held through the entire process. It’s frustrating and often thankless.
There’s an older manual for how to ask a “hacker” for technical help that I think is so spot on for setting proper expectations: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Up until now, we’ve been hiding it in wikis and books, where we know nobody will look. 😂
There are some user friendly distributions, but even they will be uncomfortable and frustrating to use when you’re new.
Having to relearn how to use a computer is daunting for people. It’s a lot easier to just touch an app and have the instant gratification.
The point of all of these apps and services is to get people dependent on them so that they’re unwilling to leave because the alternative requires effort. I don’t know that Linux, as a whole, can ever be that user friendly. But, eventually some people will be tired of being squeezed for cash and spyed on just to save a few weeks of reading and learning.
this is eventually going to restore the internet to the 1990s on alternate protocols like Gopher or breathe new life into IRC and Newsgroups.
How would Gopher side step this?
My best guess is through complete obscurity :)
Assuming the law is written around the paradigm of HTTP.
sorry to break this to you, but zoomers are all adults now
These delineations are quite silly especially when used in a derogatory way. But if one plays that game, there are still “zoomers” who are minors.
Those are probably only on mobile so their knowledge of navigating a PC is probably worse than a boomer and don’t even understand the concept of folders and files.
I personally know several in that age group (minor zoomers) who game on Windows and Linux.
Nearly positive that the youngest are still minors, but most of them are adults for sure.
I have a gen x cousin that still rants about millennials, quickly becoming the new Facebook uncle
The youngest millenials are almost 30, dude’s gotta get a new hobby or something, rants about Millenials haven’t been the in thing for like 10 years now.
Relevant XKCD
*They’re
From Alpha to Beta in No Time Flat: Consequences of the Online Safety Act
Also most zoomers are adults now, so no
I remember in 2019 my workplace was doing large guest lectures from experts teaching how to work with millennials entering the workplace. The teacher early on tried to emphasize that most millennials at that point were late 20s up to almost 40 so everyone’s been working with them for a good amount of time now and the crowd was not interested in that.
Just venting about their teenage children who were gen z but wasn’t a term used much for a couple more years. Just as entertaining were old millennials in denial and certain they were gen x. Not as entertaining were old gen z that thought they were millennials but learned they were actually gen z and it was a moment of shrug shoulder and pretty much being like, “neat.” Like thinking your astrological sign or zodiac animal was one thing your whole life but was off by one.
Similar to like 2021/2022 when I started hearing about how terrible gen z workers out of college were because of growing up on tiktok. Gen z in the workforce at that time grew up on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Snapchat. Twitter was genz and millennials tertiary social media. When TikTok came out they had been working for years already or just about to finish undergrad college. 2021/2022 gen z who had the brain rot got that well before TikTok became popular
First they did it to millennials, now they’re doing it again to Zoomers
“Adults”
They’re out of college and approaching 30
Yeah but I’m older so naturally I look at them as adolescents still
The internet’s inability to fact check anything before re-sharing it? Yes, I agree.
lol
The majority of zoomers are 18 or older. The youngest are 13.
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
You don’t need Linux, you just need to get the driver from Nvidia’s website.
If they can’t figure this out, they really don’t belong on Linux.
