- https://duckduckgo.com/?q=southparkuncensored.com
- https://www.qwant.com/?q=southparkuncensored.com
- https://www.bing.com/search?q=southparkuncensored.com
Most other search engines show https://www.southparkuncensored.com/ after searching for “south park uncensored” or “southparkuncensored”, but Bing doesn’t, and therefore DuckDuckGo and Qwant neither.
DDG is more of a privacy frontend for Bing then its own search engine. Typically if its not on Bing its not gonna be on DDG.
Works on both Brave and Google via Mullvad Leta
Ddg gets its results from more than just bing as well as doing some curation on top.
You should be using SearXNG anyway.
To be fair, SearXNG still queries DuckDuckGo, QWant an Bing by default, I suspect Google does the same thing so Startpage would be out as well.
With default settings it still fetches southparkuncensored.com for me. It might query those engines, but it also queries other ones by default as well.
Kagi is unaffected.
I guess you are supporting my assertion?
I mean yeah, this is a screenshot of the search results. It is weird that there is a reddit post asking to see the opposite above the desired page which just needed the TLD added. But still, the page in question is in the search results.
Not sure why I got a downvote, but I don’t mind being unpopular.
In context it felt like a rebuttal, but with the link clearly shown. Maybe a comment to help clarify next time?
For the record, I deprioritize reddit so the actual link is on top for me.
This is the problem with social media, especially Lemmy and Reddit. It is the default stance to assume a neutral comment is hostile. Why do we all argue so much? I’ve been there, but I’m trying to be kinder online. I think it’s a systemic problem and I don’t know the solution.
How do you do that in Kagi?
Click on the shield icon on the right, then the “down shield” icon in the resulting popup. Or you can block the site entirely!
Is it a surprise? Bing is controlled by M$, and their search results are taken by Qwant and DDG. Ecosia also runs with google results so it isn’t affected.
Brave Search also returns results for it just fine as well. Which makes sense given they run with their own indexing now (with fallbacks to Google and Bing only when requested).
Jokes on you, i tried using qwant and they just straight up deny me access because using a VPN apparently is “suspicious”.
I mean they’re not wrong… Their motives are suspicious, so you use a VPN. 😁
Wait Ecosia switched from Bing to Google?
Startpage was the only commercial search engine indexing Google from my knowledge.
Ecosia uses both but they do use the bing ads system
I verified that and you’re correct. They also use Yahoo! for ads
Wow I’ve learned something new today. From the ads I have clicked on ecosia it always used a bing redirect. Perhaps it also kinda depends on region? I assume yahoo ads aren’t as popular/good paying in the EU as bing
Context is needed. What is that site? And why do you believe search results about it are being censored?
To be honest, the poster is “SPU,” so this is probably 90% to promote the site. (Not that I really care that much in this case, I like South Park and think episodes that have Muhammad in them should still be available despite religious extremists being upset.)
More like 97% addressing and countering censorship. Other than the remaining 3% that undeservedly strokes my ego I personally have nothing to gain by promoting the site in itself; no ads, no tracking, no donations.
I was simply surprised and disgusted by search results being censored on DDG and Qwant and thought others would like to know this too.
Damn shame. I use DDG, but them consistently fucking up makes me want to switch. Though i don’t know of any alternatives.
edit: thanks for the recommendations!
Kagi. Privacy focussed, no ads, and excellent results with options for sorting preferred sources to appear at the top, or not. Costs money but man, it’s fast and good in the way Google was back in the day. Some plans also include anonymous access to a variety of LLMs though they are older models, and if they can run them locally, they do. Really liking it.
FWIW the founder of Kagi is adamant that subscribers must accept part of the subscruption money being sent to Russia (Yandex, fully govt-controlled) and has refused all attempts at excluding it. When questions started appearing he even tried claiming Yandex isn’t even russian.
Source?
Very quick internet search yielded this result: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19
Thank you!
EDIT: Okay, reading the replies there it seems like this is a virtue signalling issue rather than something specifically wrong with Yandex search results. Like how some people tried to start a boycott of Proton over a tweet that praised a Trump appointment, or accused Ladybird browser of being “transphobic” because someone tried to discuss gender pronouns in the issue tracker and was told it was not the right place.
Ngl I don’t get these people always being like “Source?”
Just look it up bruh it takes less time than to comment
Asking the person who purports to be an expert on the situation to provide some context is much faster than someone who knows nothing about it, like myself, trying to find it.
Just look it up bruh it takes less time than to comment
Source?
Yea, it’s gets to sounding like playground argument tactics “nuh uh!” (which is basically sophistry).
Even when I’m being genuinely curious these days, I try to ask for a source by making it a convo, like “do you remember where you came across that or what should I search for to get good results”, instead of “source?”.
Which country are Kagi servers hosted in?
Dunno. Check their about page, but appears to be through GCP?
I’ll give the trial a go, thank you for the recommendation
I swapped to Kagi this month. It’s refreshing. I’ll probably end up on the $10/month plan. They also have a library pilot program I’m trying to get my academic library to look into.
I used it for almost a year at the lowest tier, then got the couples plan more recently and it has high spouse approval factor, even though there was some initial setup
I literally told you months ago I have a SearXNG instance up, you fucking knob.
I forgor
I’ll set it as my main tomorrow and see where this goes lol
https://leta.mullvad.net/ uses Brave or Google
https://searx.space/ uses any of the big search engines you want, you do have to pick an instance
https://leta.mullvad.net/ uses Brave or Google
thanks for this one. i’m currently trying out their encrypted and adblocking dns on the hotspot i set up on dietpi to isolate ‘streaming’ devices, comparing its effectiveness to pihole and adguard home.
Thanks! I think i’m set on searxng + some other stuff i’d like to try.
SearXNG instances, bravesearch, startpage, etc…
Doesn’t startpage use google, though? Wouldn’t it still be affected?
I will try searxng/brave, thank you
Yeah it is dependant on Google and Google can do censorship. However from personnal experience (maybe it differ in different countries) Google does less censorship than Microsoft at least regarding their search engines.
Best one is probably (in my opinion) selfhosting a searxng instance. It takes results from a dozen of engines (you configure which ones) and merges them according to the configured weights and some algorithmic magic.
If you use public instances, the owner might have tuned the results to suit themselves and it returns garbage for your usecase. And also they frequently get timeouts because a lot of people use them. So don’t get turned off by trying a couple of them.
Since I started running my own private instance I am super happy with the search results.
+1 i have my own searxng instance on my lan that I access via my headscale VPN setup. Love it.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Yacy? You can self host if you want.
I’ve heard of it before but never dug into it, will do. Thanks
Its not great if I’m honest. But it does work!
Startpage is similarly anonymous, but it uses Google search
And is owned by an ad company afaik
Yeah, they advertise using only the context of the keywords of your current search. No storing of personal data, no profiling. They’ve had third parties review that. Seems fine to me.
Startpage’s majority shareholder is System1 who is an adtech company. We don’t believe that to be an issue as they have a distinctly separate privacy policy. The Privacy Guides team reached out to Startpage back in 2020 to clear up any concerns with System1’s sizeable investment into the service, and we were satisfied with the answers we received.
From privacyguides.org
searxng and 4get are great alternatives
AFAIK, Yandex doesn’t censor piracy stuff.
…Yandex, you mean Russia?
You people are annoying as fuck. Just stick with Google/Bing (USA, lol) or their surrogates (DDG, Qwant…) and keep complaining about not finding piracy-related results.
I haven’t ever complained about not getting piracy results because I don’t use search engines for that (there are some piracy indexes that work just as well)
I may as well try Yandex for piracy, because USA has been as bad if not worse than Russia against Europe. This is basically choosing the lesser evil.
shock horror
Yeah. It’s unacceptable. Still, I dare to say (and I hate to say it), Yandex has the best search engine index by far.
Sadly all those search engines directly or indirectly censor piracy results. I use DDG daily but they sadly do a lot of censoring results of various kinds, even just political.
