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Collision Resistance@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

Fears of peace talks with Putin rise amid US squabbling

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Collision Resistance@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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WARSAW, Poland — Eastern European countries are raising alarm over Ukraine potentially being pushed into peace talks with Russia, amid growing partisanship in Washington, hesitation and delays in w…
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    Not being dead is even better.

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      This is the point that’s always lost on libs. They’re full on blood and soil over soil and blood that isn’t theirs. They can’t imagine negotiationg peace so then people can stop dying.

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      So you just surrender and don’t have a home anymore/die anyways?

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        “die anyways” ? how so ?

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          I’m sorry I don’t have the time or willpower to explain history to you.

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            What a pretentious thing to say.

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              Lol ok

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                “They’ll die because Putin=hitler. I am the great history understander of our time. Just don’t ask me about anything that happened between 2013 and 2022.”

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                  They’ll die in the next 100 years because putin has invented ageing.

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                PIGPOOPBALLS

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                PIGPOOPBALLS

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            Terminal levels of cringe

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            I would be so ashamed of actually posting this

            Just don’t answer, it looks less ridiculous

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            cringe and smuglord

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              Very intelligent.

              Why are you posting hex emojis outside of hexbear? You know that’s against hexbear rules.

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                cope

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                  Grow up, kid.

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                    pigpoop pigpoop pigpoop

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                    PIGPOOPBALLS

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                PIGPOOPBALLS

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                pigpoop

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                I think half these people are illiterate and this is the only way they can communicate.

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                  One of them blocked me, so I can’t even see the thread anymore. I’m just getting a flood of giant emojis in my inbox that leads to a blank topic.

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                    That pretty much sums up the entire thread and any other post they brigade with their propaganda.

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            The brigade of sealions is insufferable and interacting with them won’t help.

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        How would Ukrainians lose their homes/die if a successful peace deal was brokered?

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        What do you mean by “don’t have a home?”

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        It would have to be a really shitty surrender treaty to have the clause “Ukraine will surrender all land to Russia and will also die anyways.” Like you realize this is useless and dumb hyperbole right?

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        What do you honestly think is going to happen to Ukraine if theres a ceasefire? Without using cartoon logic

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        You just have to read about the Great Soviet Famine to know how Russia regards the Ukrainian people. Well, all the people who are not the Tzar really. Putin has already started the latest genocide via war and stealing children.

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          The famine that affected the whole USSR, of which Ukraine was a part? What does that have to do with Russia, let along the “Tzar”?

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        And then you get raped and killed. Like glorious Russia has always done throughout your history.

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          Ok Adolf

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            Everyone is Adolf: A Socially Awkward Morons Guide to Winning Debates.

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              More ableism from liberals? shocked-pikachu

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              No need to use an ableist slur to make your point. It adds nothing and makes it easy to dismiss.

              Take it out and your otherwise correct.

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                There you go. I agree

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            Do you think Russia went to Ukraine and they sat down in a nice comfy living room with a fireplace and discussed one country handing everything they have over to the other?

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              No, I’m aware of the fact that there’s an actual war going on.

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                You don’t seem aware of it by your comments.

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                  You don’t seem self aware by your comments.

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                    LMAO no u

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                  You’re making no sense here at all.

                  Are you a bot?

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                    I’ve seen them do the same thing with landlord apologia. They say something silly, get critiqued and then its “lol, no u”

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                    Funny how these people think they deserve any equal respect or recognition as a human on this site (Remember le human!) when their honest to god conversational cadence sounds like a machine-translated speech algorithm. Would you respect this person’s time if you met them for real? And if they started talking like this?

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                    If being supportive of a sovereign nation that’s been invaded doesn’t make sense to you… Idk man. That’s a shitty way to think.

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              That is somehow still more likely than Russia completely annexing Ukraine with less than half the East in their control

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          I’m sure you weren’t one of the people celebrating whenever someone would post a video of that happening to a Russian on Reddit.

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            Reddit reddit reddit. That’s all you children talk about. Why don’t you just give in and make an account? It’s all you talk about anyway.

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              You didnt deny it, which wouldve been easy. Something you dont wanna talk about?

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              Don’t feed the hexbears.

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                Why not? We’re gonna eat anyway, may as well make it fun

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                Spoooky hexbears ooooh hexbear-specter

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          hitler-detector

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          Literal fascist

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            Putin is indeed.

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        Why do you think peace talks equal surrender? How do you think literally all other wars came to an end?

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          Because context is a thing. Or do you think Russia would currently accept any peace deal that includes leaving Ukraine? Of course there will have to be a peace deal at the end, but currently there are no peace deals that would be acceptable to either party.

          When there is talk about “peace deals”, such deals are implied to somewhat reflect the status quo border wise, which at the moment would mean that Ukraine surrenders. It’s Russia currently occupying Ukraine and trying to legitimise it, not the other way around. No shit a peace deal would be favourable to them.

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      Not for russians.

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