This is what happens when AI is tasked with surveillance.
Although AI involvement is not mentioned in the article, this quote might implicate that AI recognition could have been used:
“It’s got the incorrect date of birth, then it’s got a description of me, which says I have hat hair, which I found quite odd,” he said.
The problem with all that is that the whole process seems to be automated and that it hardly can be interrupted with human intervention.
Jones is also concerned the same thing might happen to somebody else who may not have the capacity to challenge the fine.
This indeed is concerning, as it already is challenging sometimes to deal with authorities, even when AI is not involved at all.
don’t make me tap the sign
Literally exactly what we have been warning about. The UK really has overtaken China in some areas of dystopianism at this point.
Bit dramatic mate. One guy called Steve Jones got mixed up with another guy called Steve Jones. Shit happens.
The problem is not the mix up, because of the same name or a similar appearence, but rather that the processing done by the authorities with support of AI cannot be intervened by humans. Imagine you can resolve something only after you have been fined or, worst case scenario, booked into jail.
Look, I hate the intrusion into our lives of unaccountable computer systems as anyone. But this article has nothing to do with facial recognition or AI. It’s a bureaucratic fuck up.
Manchester City Council don’t even own or operate any facial recognition equipment at this point. Greater Manchester Police do, but they’ve only purchased it a month or so ago (after this story even unfolded) and they’ve only deployed it a couple of times so far and only at mass events. And Greater Manchester Police aren’t the issuing body of the fixed penalty notice.
Conflating genuine human and computer errors with AI just makes us look like crazy people shouting at clouds.
You got a source on ai being used? This article doesn’t mention it.
he said, “and then they had to go and find the guy’s camera evidence and that took a few days, and then eventually they realised that it wasn’t me”.
You think someone in a city 200 miles away just watched video footage and was like “Yes i know that guy, his name is Steve Jones” ???
No obviously the fuck not. They clearly use facial recognition to identify people and it picked the wrong guy.
AI isn’t mentioned, facial recognition isn’t mentioned. You’re just making up stuff for FUD.
Most of these tickets are on the spot fines. They probably just spoke with the offender who gave his name.
so you think a human saw the footage and somehow knew who this guy was?
The footage is not used to identify the offender it is used in evidence by a court. It works like this, a litter enforcement officer sees you drop litter, they get it on video as evidence, and they approach you and issue a fine. You give them your name, that’s how they get it. If you don’t give your name, it’s a criminal matter and they call the actual police.
AI is already getting people killed by driving them to suicide. I sometimes like to chat with LLMs, but if that subject is anything serious, then it becomes VERY irritating indeed.
It’s nothing to do with AI. Someone just clicked the wrong name in the list and once the wheels are in motion, no one really has any incentive to stop it.
Yes, in an unexpected inception level of irony, this community is about as echo chambery as talking to chatgpt about a solution you found to a nonexistent problem.
Say you don’t like ai, get upvotes, say anything dissenting - even if it is the truth - and the entire community mimics the same sycophantic training of the very ai models they are against.
We need a new community called ai_critics or ai_sceptics, as the fuck in the current name is taken to a schoolyard level of irony here.
Eta: the comment with the reasonable explanation got burried https://lemmy.world/comment/19262976
Guess we need a Brazil reboot. But instead of a fly, it’s just AI making all the decisions
