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    His last words

    He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied “Too many”

    He was corrected, the number is 5.

    He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)

    He asked back: “Counting or not counting gang violence?” and got shot

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      I always said “You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out.”

      And it was literally the last thing he ever did.

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            I do unironically feel bad for his kids, even if they may grow up better without him they still watched their dad get ganked in public. Note they were with him at the time.

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              I did not know that… That sucks

              And I wasn’t being ironic either. I hope his ill gotten gains are enough for his kids to be ok… The damage he did collecting it will never equal what he squirreled away, but hopefully it at least is enough for his kids to grow up with food and therapists

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                That’s my take as well, right now they need comfort food and a highly respected trauma therapist. Maybe keep them away from crowds for awhile as well, who knows what issues will start to manifest in the coming days/weeks/months/years.

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              You’re looking to feel sad for someone because a violemce happened, but this wasn’t bad.

              Feel sad for his victims, cry with joy for those who now won’t be, or shut the hell up and enjoy your sippy cup of champaigne.

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            I feel bad for his kids, actually.

            They’ll likely be raised to think their father was a martyr, so the poor things (like 1 and 3 years) will probably grow up in the alt-right-o-sphere where their dad was a martyr to the cause.

            That’s very sad. They’ll likely won’t have had a chance.

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              I do too… But I wouldn’t say they don’t stand a chance

              Their dad got shot while encouraging gun violence. That might instill some strong opinions in them

              The kind of strong opinions that will likely be buried and come out later in therapy

              But it could go either way

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                Depends. I expect his wife is just as alt-right-addled as he was, which might mean she’ll raise them to be little Nazis. I guess they might break out of that, and I hope so, but being raised alt-right with a prominent martyr to the cause as your father could seriously fuck you up. Don’t forget they’re very rich, so they’re insulated from the real world.

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                  I mean you might be right, but I imagine the martyr thing could go either way

                  Just putting myself in their shoes, it probably won’t feel nice having their dad constantly praised for doing what they saw him die doing

                  Plus, Charlie Kirk was more hated than loved. There’s no putting them so deep in a bubble that they aren’t confronted with that fact

                  Kids tend to either follow or reject their parents beliefs… I’m not sure what this kind of trauma does to that, but I’ll bet it’ll make it more extreme

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                    For their sake, I hope you’re right.

                    e: and, putting myself in their shoes as a child whose father was both prominent and absent (though not dead), I idolised him well into my 30s. Raising a teen boy finally disabused me of his sainthood. He’s still the most remarkable man I’ve ever met, but he’s also fallible.
                    If he’d been dead, I may never have been forced to accept he’s human.

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      “Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂

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      He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.

      I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They’re guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.

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      Does anyone have video of this? (This conversation, not the shooty part) All the news media are quoting this while referring to a video but not showing it.

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        I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools

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          You’re desensitized to violence. Not something to be proud of or encourage 😟

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            Do you say the same to those somehow still supporting Israel’s genocide in Gaza when there is vastly more grotesque footage? Or for the slaughtering and rapping in Ukraine with now years of footage? Or those enabling the children being blasted away in schools across the us on a daily basis, including yesterday? 🧐

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              Yes, as the decensitivation is a necessary element for the continuation of the violence